Brendan Kohler wrote:

"mike kreiner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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Are there any plans for developing a standard IDE for python that's
included with the python installation? I found information about other
IDE's elsewhere online, but couldn't even find any mention of this
possibility.

I'm still relatively new to Python--I switched over from VB--and I
found it difficult to learn python without an IDE. Most experienced
programmers I know started out using Emacs or another text editor, and
are very happy with that; however, I found it difficult to put all the
pieces (like GUI, etc.) together myself. i tried many of the free IDEs,
but was dissatisfied (VS is tough to beat in my opinion, much better
than the average m$ application *plz don't flame*). although it'd be a
difficult undertaking, i think an IDE would be a tremendous boost for
python in terms of gaining support in education and the business
community. has anyone else discussed this? does anyone know the BDFL's
stance? thanks.

~mike



That would be something called IDLE, which is included with python already.


With respect it wouldn't, since IDLE doesn;t include a GUI builder. I think Mike's cri-de-couer is for a tool that makes it as easy as Visual Studio to put a GUI-based application together.

To which I can only respond that it's obvious Microsoft haven't wasted ALL the money they've spent on developemnt. VS *is* a tough act to beat, though certainly not impossible.

I wish there *were* something equivalent. If Jim Hugunin can persuade Microsoft to fully support Python in Visula Studio .NET they'd have at least one more customer.

regards
 Steve
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