Hi Warren,

Actually, I tried to use select .., r. na\+ as the second option, but
that didn't work for me (Pymol 0.99b on Suse 9.2).

Oh, and I owe you an elaborate answer still on the mail from a while
ago. But that got a bit buried.. sorry ;)

Tsjerk

On 2/2/07, DeLano Scientific <del...@delsci.info> wrote:

Tsjerk & Abhinav,

> Actually, it was a bit surprising to me to see you're right.

+ is the default list separator in selections.  For example:

select posi, ARG+HIS+LYS/
select backbone, n. N+CA+C+O

That is why it needs to be escaped with a backslash.

Commas can also be used, but only within parentheses -- otherwise the parser
gets confused, since commas are also used to separate command arguments.

select backbone, (n. N,CA,C,O)

Also, be aware when using backslashes inside a Python string that they are
also a string escape character, so it is best to use two of them "\\+".
However, a single slash happens to work in this case for some bizzare
reason.

In other words, the PyMOL command:

select selectionname, r. na\+

has a true Python equivalent of

cmd.select("selectionname","r. na\\+")

not

cmd.select("selectionname","r. na\+")

which actually works, but probably shouldn't.

Cheers,
Warren

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: pymol-users-boun...@lists.sourceforge.net
> [mailto:pymol-users-boun...@lists.sourceforge.net] On Behalf
> Of Tsjerk Wassenaar
> Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 2:23 AM
> To: Abhinav Verma
> Cc: pymol-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [PyMOL] selecting Na+ in pymol
>
> Hi Abhi,
>
> Actually, it was a bit surprising to me to see you're right.
> Now, for showing/hiding, it has been dealt with in the code,
> by allowing the "+" to be left out. However, for selecting
> (and alter_ing) that doesn't go, apparently. A workaround is to use
>
> cmd.select("selectionname","r. na\+") or
> cmd.select("selectionname","n. na\+")
>
> Alternatively, you can change the residue/atomnames using:
>
> cmd.alter("r. na\+","resn='Na'") or cmd.alter("n. na\+","name='Na'")
>
> All of these worked for me. Of course, it would be good to
> have this dealt with properly in the same way as for showing/hiding.
>
> Hope it helps,
>
> Tsjerk
>
> On 2/2/07, Abhinav Verma <abhinav1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hallo,
> >  I have an annoying problem. I have pdb file with Na+ atoms
> defined as
> >
> > ATOM      1 Na+  Na+    53      -1.106   7.854  52.244
> 1.00  0.00         Na
> >
> > now if want to select these Na+ with
> >
> > PyMOL>select n. na+
> >  Selector: selection "sele" defined with 0 atoms.
> >
> > Any ideas how to select them?
> >
> > I tried renaming them to Na and then select n. na which works. So I
> > assume the problem is "+" which is used for add in pymol.
> > I also tried n. "na+" which did not work either.
> >
> >
> > thanks in advance,
> > Abhi.
> >
> >
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