On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 1:00 PM, blaf <[email protected]> wrote: > We definitively need to make things clear between Pyramid and higher- > level stuff and the site must provide that information unambiguously; > by words, by content organization, by layout, etc... > > We also need to make a distinction between projects developed by The > Pylons Project and by third parties, not to create confusion and have > a cohesive collection. > > I think Pyramid must be associated with something like a «core» or a > «base» framework and it's why we must not use a name including Pyramid > for an higher-level framework based on it, it's just too confusing. A > plugin or extension like pyramid_beaker makes sense because it plugs > another lib to extend the core framework, but «gears» will define > policies, rules and opinions so it needs to be self defined. Pyramid > is not called Paste Pyramid or WebOb Pyramid because it uses them to > provide functionalities.
I think Ben has his heart set on the name Pyramid for the Pylons-level framework, and is already making website design and marking plans based on that. So the high-level framework can be called TurboGears or something closer to Pyramid, but not Pyramid itself. However, there have long been requests for a batteries-included form of Pylons. We have always referred people to TurboGears for that. But with the merger (if TG agrees to join it), a tighter branding may be more appropriate, like Pyramid Gears. That way there's an "official" high-level framework, clearly integrated and not just stuck onto it like a Christmas tree ornament, and then we'll look like a full-service organization (good for marketing). But I don't want to preclude other high-level frameworks with semi-affiliated status. There are too many legitimate alternatives to exclude them, and the Python-web landscape would be more unified and interoperable if more of the frameworks were built on the Pyramid stack. "Paste Pyramid" and "WebOb Pyramid" are not really along the same lines. Paste and WebOb are low-level utilities, while Pyramid is a complete framework. Pyramid : PyramidGears is more like Debian : Ubuntu, not GNU : "GNU/Linux" : Debian. -- Mike Orr <[email protected]> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "pylons-discuss" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss?hl=en.
