One suggestion with disclaimer:

Suggestion:

"The Pylons Project develops web application framework technology in
Python"

reads different to me..

How about saying "Pylons Team" instead of "Pylons Project"? "Pylons"
as a brand name? and "Project" is an outcome with classic Pylons and
new Pyramid.

Disclaimer:

I am not native English speaker. English is my second language..
Please don't mind about my silliness.
Sorry, I am not trolling.


Regards,

Krish




On Jul 20, 1:35 pm, Blaise Laflamme <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi and thanks for your suggestions. We're currently remodelling,
> redesigning and reorganizing the current website so any input is
> welcome. There is already a basis for a new design, however we're
> actually more in the information architecture phase. If you want to
> contribute I propose joining us on pylonshq wiki 
> -https://github.com/Pylons/pylonshq/wiki/New-pylonshq.com, I'll shortly
> create a new project for the new website and will move stuff there.
>
> Blaise
>
> On Jul 20, 4:55 am, Chris McDonough <[email protected]> wrote:
>
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> > On Wed, 2011-07-20 at 01:52 -0700, Eric Ongerth wrote:
> > > Quote from the currenthttp://pylonsproject.org:
>
> > > "The Pylons Project was founded by the people behind the Pylons web
> > > framework to develop web application framework technology in Python.
> > > Rather than focusing on a single web framework, the Pylons Project
> > > will develop a collection of related technologies. The first package
> > > is the Pyramid web framework."
>
> > > It's factual, but a little clunky and indirect.  May I propose a
> > > rewrite, maybe something like the following?
>
> > > "The Pylons Project develops web application framework technology in
> > > Python.  Our primary offering is known as Pyramid.  Our previous
> > > framework was called Pylons.  Pyramid is a unification of the Pylons
> > > framework with repoze.bfg, providing a superset of the capabilities of
> > > both."  (or replace that final sentence in any way that seems
> > > fitting.)
>
> > I'm thrilled to take any docs contribution; the best way is via pull
> > request.
>
> > - C
>
> > > There's just something about the current phrasing of the paragraph,
> > > especially given its prominent location on the page, that seems to say
> > > "we're scrambling to explain this Pylons vs. Pylons vs. Pyramid
> > > distinction to you, dear visitor, even though you didn't ask."  The
> > > point of rewriting -- whether it be my suggestion or someone else's
> > > better offering -- would be to provide the simple factual information
> > > as smoothly as possible, without a "rather than" clause, and without a
> > > couple of other things that just seem a bit indirect and unnecessary
> > > about the current phrasing.
>
> > > No offense intended to he who wrote the paragraph, it's not bad, and I
> > > think it made perfect sense in the first quarter of 2011, addressing
> > > visitors who most likely were aware of Pylons and arrived to see what
> > > the hubbub was about with news of Pyramid making the rounds.  But
> > > we've quickly moved into a more long term steady state where the
> > > average visitor is none too concerned with the history or the
> > > aforementioned distinction; by and large I suspect the average visitor
> > > simply wants to get straight into the current offering and not worry
> > > about those details.  I do suppose there is a significant minority of
> > > visitors who are newfound maintainers or migrators of Pylons-based
> > > projects, who actually are seeking that information; but I don't see a
> > > need to cater to them at the top of the page by default.
>
> > > Along those lines I almost went as far as to suggest that we quit even
> > > bothering to explain the Pylons vs. Pylons vs. Pyramid distinction on
> > > the front page at all.  But I suppose it's still necessary, given that
> > > Pyramid has top billing and yet the URL and the 'Project itself are
> > > still (and will remain) Pylons branded.  So I guess that does leave
> > > some need for at least a minor explanation.  There is also value in
> > > noting the strength and extent of current well-known apps/sites/
> > > projects built on the Pylons framework.  Thus the grey bar which forms
> > > the second main element of the page, below the top orange-gradient
> > > Pyramid section, has reason to exist with at least some sort of
> > > prominence.
>
> > > Still, I almost think it could be a good idea to remodel it into
> > > (mostly/nearly) a full-on Pyramid home page, with a less prominent
> > > section at the bottom, or in a sidebar, saying "looking for the Pylons
> > > framework?" and providing links thereto.  Maybe right now is not quite
> > > that point in time yet, but it's food for thought.
>
> > > I don't mean to take on the sound of a project member or contributor
> > > here, as all I've been able to provide is a few typo corrections in
> > > docs.  Forgive my use of the "we" voice above.  But I do hope these
> > > thoughts are worth the community's and the developers' consideration.
> > > Thanks.
>
> > > - ejo

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