I think the criticisms in the post -- and their defense here -- are really important. I've had the same struggles.
While many are not technically valid , they appear to be so because of the documentation and positioning of pyramid. Pyramid is really powerful framework, but its also quite low-level. Most frameworks are high-level. While this can be very powerful, it can also be frustrating. As an example, look at the concept of Auth -- the pyramid auth system is ( unless there are new magical docs out there ) very much positioned at doing some fine-grained authentication ( users, groups, actions) based on each 'view'. Most other frameworks use advanced plugins for this sort of functionality... and have much simpler plugins to handle authentication for each handler / controller / etc as a package. ie: for the majority of web applications, the state of being "logged in" is the only requirement for access to every method of a class/package, and having to (re)declare auth policies per method becomes daunting. I mentioned "unless there are new magical docs", because I think 99% of the problems with pyramid right now are the docs. They're hard to sift through (rather dense) and easy to miss things in. Meanwhile, docs for projects like Django and Rails are really light and breezy... and link to the more-in-depth specialized docs and api docs. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "pylons-devel" group. To post to this group, send email to pylons-devel@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to pylons-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-devel?hl=en.