On Jun 21, 2009, at 12:40 PM, Iain Duncan wrote:

>> I don't know what Ben has up his sleeve but I think the core is
>> essentially done with 0.9.7.  The main incremental changes are on the
>> periphery: improve @validate, replace @beaker_cache, improve the
>> dependency documentation.  I had a second job which sucked up all my
>> time, and I'm just now getting back into programming.I expect the
>> other developers have likewise been working on other stuff.

Yep, that and wipe out the legacy code, which is actually about 1/3rd  
of the Pylons 0.9.7 code-base.

> Thanks Mike. I think for marketing purposes, it's pretty important  
> that
> this kind of stuff be kept up to date. A lot of people checking Pylons
> out are going to want to make sure it isn't just going to 'stop' even
> though the stability is also a huge selling point.

Yes, it does become tricky on "what to sell" in the way of 'new' when  
the scope of the framework is complete, and its mature. One of the  
issues is that Pylons itself isn't very plugin-compatible, and even  
Django's methodology of "plugin apps" is having issues scaling with  
conflicting settings.py files and such.

> Mmm, I was following that on pypefitters and am disappointed that
> efforts to continue seem to be being abandoned. I sure hope those
> involved decide it's worthwhile after all.

Oh, the effort is still continuing. We're kicking around a new and  
small little framework called Pypes at the moment, that is designed  
for pluggable apps, components, etc. from the get-go in a way that  
scales to large numbers of plug-ins and settings. I believe this would  
keep with the philosophy of being flexible, while allowing much better  
re-usability between websites like how the Django apps allow a manner  
of re-usability.

I'll post updates as we make more progress.

Cheers,
Ben

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