On Jun 18, 2012, at 12:55 AM, Felix Frank wrote: > this thread is starting to confuse me, I am no longer sure what you're > suggesting, precisely. > > a) Make it possible to nullify notifications under certain circumstances. > b) Make it possible to ignore file owner/mode for files that exist already. > > While (b) is rather tasteless to me (as is the whole "replace" > parameter), it is certainly well in line of what's possible today, so I > wouldn't object too much. > (a) is a nightmare I hope you're not invested in.
Well, a in the service of b -- but as a general point, I think that every notify/subscribe should be tune-able as to which things changing will cause the action to take place. >> I'm thinking of sites where you edit a policy and two seconds later >> someone on a different team "kicks" the host for an entirely different >> reason. And perhaps they should have used a tag to limit what they >> kicked, but perhaps they forgot. Or perhaps their module depends on >> yours so they so added your module as a tag. > > This statement in itself is interesting as well. I believe that most > sites, large or small, don't face this particular problem at all, > because most of its incarnations are handled by manifest code control. > If a change goes to production, it better work, otherwise whoever pushed > to production has to answer for the breakage. Exactly, which is why I said that the suggestions that someone edit the policy in advance and then send it out at the appropriate time make no sense at all. > If you have a service that should under no circumstances be restarted > unattended, then for crying out loud, do not make it consume resource > notifications from puppet. That's begging for trouble. That's not what I said. I said should not be restarted for any reason other than a change in the configuration file. Not a change in the ownership for new sites. Not a change in the mode for new sites. etc... -- Jo Rhett Net Consonance : net philanthropy to improve open source and internet projects. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Users" group. To post to this group, send email to puppet-users@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to puppet-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users?hl=en.
