On May 11, 4:27 pm, Jeff McCune <j...@puppetlabs.com> wrote:
> On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 12:17 AM, Julien Garet <julien.ga...@inria.fr>wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> > I am facing a strange behaviour with exported resources overriding in
> > 0.25.5 (CentOS). I am using nagios with exported resources. In my base
> > class, I define a hostgroup by default for all nodes. In an apache vhost
> > define, I override this hostgroup to a value common to all webservers. This
> > works.
> > But in another class, I use apache vhost define but I want to override
> > another time the hostgroup to set it to another value. This does not work,
> > the hostgroup for the host is set to the one for apache vhosts.
>
> > Is there a way to tell that the last resource override should happen after
> > the apache vhost define is applied ?
>
> Unfortunately there isn't.  The feature you're using to override resources
> is actually a bit of an unintended consequence of another feature added to
> Puppet in 0.25.5.


I consider that unfortunate only insomuch as it makes the OP's life
more difficult.  In general, Puppet does not like it when you make
contradictory declarations about a node, and I am happy to have it
that way.  Even when 2.7 makes the result of evaluation of such a
manifest deterministic, *relying* on that evaluation order to resolve
conflicts will still be a poor idea.  What I consider unfortunate here
is that Puppet does not raise an error when an attempt is made to
perform conflicting overrides.


> In Puppet 2.7, the order these resources will be evaluated in will be
> guaranteed to be deterministic, so this will help with testing and staging
> into pre-production, but currently the best practice is to not override the
> same parameter using the collection syntax.


And that will remain the best practice for the foreseeable future, as
far as I am concerned.

Speaking of deterministic evaluation, just how stable is it going to
be?  That is, it's one thing for ordering to be consistent for a
particular set of manifests, but what will happen when the manifests
are modified?  How will ordering be affected by manifest changes?


John

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