I can tell you that for me, and for my group, it's a halfway step
between reloading Puppet and watching the logs, and a full --debug --
no-daemonize run.

So for instance, when they're troubleshooting a bug in a newly-written
or modified class, I suggest a puppetd -tv run to just output the
errors and successes...and if you see an error, you could then follow
up with the more verbose --debug to get at what Puppet was trying to
do that generated it, provided that you didn't get enough from the
former.

It might be wise to consider combining a bunch of similar options
(verbose, test, debug, etc) into a "verbose" with levels of output --
either v1, v2, v3 or vv, vvv, vvvv, etc.

-Eric


On Jan 23, 8:51 pm, Nigel Kersten <ni...@puppetlabs.com> wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 5:34 PM, James Louis <jgloui...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > so the actual changes take place, if any, during a test vs a noop which does
> > not let the actual changes take place. So this would be used primarily for
> > configuration testing? Or perhaps for troubleshooting? Or both?
>
> Yes, both.
>
> Due to it being quick to type, it's become the defacto method for
> interactively triggering puppet agent runs.
>
> puppet agent -t
>
> Maybe the right answer is to identify the chunks of functionality
> people use it for, and add those as new options, deprecating --test
> itself.
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
> > On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 7:22 PM, Nigel Kersten <ni...@puppetlabs.com> wrote:
>
> >> On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 4:53 PM, James Louis <jgloui...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > exactly. to what purpose?
>
> >> To trigger an immediate run on a client with the common options used
> >> when testing a real run, not a noop run.
>
> >> If there was a clear word that described this functionality, we
> >> probably wouldn't be having this discussion.
>
> >> > On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 6:50 PM, Patrick <kc7...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> >> On Jan 23, 2011, at 4:47 PM, James Louis wrote:
>
> >> >> > that tells what options are applied when --test is used but doesn't
> >> >> > explain the functionality of --test (i.e. --test is an option to
> >> >> > enable the
> >> >> > puppet agent to test it's connection to the puppet master by turning
> >> >> > on the
> >> >> > following options... blah blah blah)
>
> >> >> Ah.  Basically, test doesn't do anything except turn on all those
> >> >> options.
>
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