On Thursday, September 26, 2013 2:39:19 PM UTC-5, Luke Kanies wrote:
>
> Do we have agreement that it's a good idea to find a way to encourage 
> users to provide more dependencies, and that it would be good if we could 
> somehow detect when a dependency is likely to be missing? 
>
>

I think it's a perfectly fine idea to encourage users to provide all needed 
dependencies, and moreso if Puppet can help users figure out what those may 
be.  I accept the premise that most users miss dependencies required to 
ensure a valid order of application (even though their catalogs may be 
applied successfully anyway), therefore I agree that it would be a good 
idea to encourage them to provide more dependencies -- as long as the ones 
they are encouraged to provide are in fact likely to be needed.  I just 
don't accept simple lack of containment as an adequate criterion for 
identifying missing dependencies.

 

> If we can agree on that, then maybe we can find a mechanism (which may or 
> may not involve containment) we can agree on.  If we can't agree on that, 
> then yeah, we're not going to agree. :)
>


I'm willing to give it a try.


John
 

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