HENK:
UNLESS and until one grasps Linux as a whole system, which takes time to learn, it's 
not accessible.
Thus it needs insider knowhow and conventions, etc. One gets one's head bitten off 
subtly or crudely
when an "ignorant" outsider by the insiders, if not called illiterate, haha. Try 
joining a billionaires
club and see. Linux has a steeper learning curve than most. Since the input mechanisms 
to the head, eye
and ear and mouth ONLY take it in bits at a time understanding of it as a whole needs 
time to data
stuff. Once the conventions acquired it's all too "Obvious"  and not until.
I was sorry too. Let's have a crying contest. More time wasted. I'm even older Europe.

And while I'm at it, for IAIN, there is a linux578.zip file, , with a tar file in it, 
with a linux
driver for REDhat and a scanmodem proggie to get the chip number and model, but its 
all in Unix code and
gz compression, no use to Windows. I've got the 568 but that needs a tty.h patch, the 
578 does not and
it seems not to go above kernel 2.2, where RH * has 2.4 and up.  The best site seems 
to be:
modemsite.com.  In Linux one can use  spci-vv query, but I cannot get into Linux, 
haha. Agere released
linux code for its Win lucent chip.  but Lectron has not yet got its act together on a 
linux driver, but
I've written to them. It's the kernel what needs modifying, done I think with later 
versions. Also got
the scanmodem prog 0.9.9. -THE latest - but again a gz. It all ranges between waffle 
and technobabble.

GOT  - just inb casew its usewfull to somebody.
scanmodem.gz  to find chip model, family and number
ltmodem 0.9.9.tgz = the latest
linux568.zip driver
ltmodem 2.4.2 _9.26a1

Which'll do the trick when Rh is working.

Anyrate found a PCI driver for the Mboard.





----- Original Message ----- 
From: "h.breimer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2003 12:47 AM
Subject: Re: newbie

>
> hi Adrian,
>
> On Fri, 27 Jun 2003 03:17:00 +1200
> "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Ta, ha,
> > You prefer telegram style? writing very ambiguous, like.
> > Don't like learning in dribbles.
>
> Whow, did'nt know there was a "holistic" method of learning Linux
>
> > Zeeland, nederland?
>
> right, "old-Europe"
>
> sorry about the ctrl-alt BS trick. I did not know about the
> motherboard problem.
>
> I hope you will still find how helpfull the man(ual) pages can be.
> Try e.g. man mkdir (in a terminal or ctrl-alt Fx screen) if you want
> to create directories.
>
> again, good luck,
>
> Henk
>
>
>
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