Having it linked to the download’s page of PSPP would be great. Students are going to the GNU PSPP page and are not finding downloading options.
In His grace, Julia Klausli, Ph.D., LPCA Program Director Assistant Professor, M.S. in Psychology jklausli....@divinemercy.edu Divine Mercy University 45154 Underwood Lane Sterling, VA 20166 > On 1. Sep 2021, at 02:38, Ben Pfaff <b...@cs.stanford.edu> wrote: > > If you publish binaries for Windows, please let us know and we'll link > to them from the PSPP downloads page. > > On Tue, Aug 31, 2021 at 10:59 AM ajk-eis <ajk-...@rvhome.de > <mailto:ajk-...@rvhome.de>> wrote: > I don't really understand why providing "a Windows Version" has to mean > for all current and previous versions and colors of Windows. > > The mainstream is Windows 10 and has been for many, many years. The > mainstream architecture is also x86 and x64 and not ARM or AMD (AMD > works just fine with x86 or x64 versions and I assume ARM does too, just > not optimised). Windows CE is only used on few small devices and POS > terminals and actually AFAIK is also fully outdated (and I don't really > see PSPP being needed on that kind of device). > > So I would propose that Windows binaries in x86 and x 64 are fully > sufficient for the Windows world and only involve at the most two > versions. In fact, there is no real reason that x64 be built since x86 > will run on any of the platforms including x64. > > I understand this is primarily a volunteer project but would expect that > outside of the IT circles in the education world most of the educators > and students are in fact on Windows or Apple (running a Windows VM), not > on Linux based distributions. > > All that being said, I do believe it should be a priority to provide a > Windows binary for Windows 10, possibly in x86 and x64 flavors, but not > more than that. With a bit more information I might be willing to > attempt that without any support or liability. No promises though. > > Al > > On 31.08.2021 08:16, John Darrington wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 31, 2021 at 01:17:22PM +0000, Quandt, Markus wrote: > > > > It has in my experience a nasty problem with the Windows output interface > > sometimes being very unresponsive, if you produce large outputs, but works > > fine for most every-day analyses and teaching, I would say. All Windows > > versions I ever used had the same problem, by the way, IIRC. > > > > > > Any operation on PSPP which takes a long time is going to make the GUI > > unresponsive for the time it takes to complete. For example, processing > > a very large number of cases, or generating very large ouput. > > > > From time to time we get requests to "fix" this. Whilst might be possible > > to provide a fix which would allow the GUI to remain responsive whilst > > processing, the following caveats would still apply: > > > > 1. Until the procedure has completed, it would still not be possible to > > start any new procedure. > > > > 2. Allowing the GUI to respond, would slow down the total time it takes > > for the procedure to complete. > > > > 3. Such a change would not be simple and would take a lot of developer time. > > > > For these reasons, such a fix has not been considered high priority. > > Having said that, if anybody wishes to contribute such a fix then it'll > > probably be accepted. > > > > Also, although the problem exists on all systems (not only Windows) PSPP > > runs magnitudes faster on GNU/Linux than on Windows, so I would suggest > > that you try that instead. > > > > > > > > This being said, I was wondering myself whether there is a perspective > > for the pre-compiled Windows versions being brought up to date again. There > > definitely are some fixes and features missing in the Windows version by > > now. > > > > Harry (who used to provide the Windows builds) has said that he doesn't > > intend to do this any more. However, I think his last build includes > > the the most recent release 1.4.1 - any changes after that are not > > released, and like any unreleased software you should think twice before > > using it. > > > > So far as whether any pre-compiled Windows binaries will be made publically > > available depends on whether anyone volunteers to do the job. Performing > > the builds is not too onerous, but maintaining such a public service is > > harder > > than one might imagine. For a start, it is not just a build for "Windows". > > Today there is Windows7, Windows10, WindowsCE ... then for each variant of > > Windows there is today not only intel architectures to consider, but i386, > > AMD, > > ARM and possibly others. Then Harry found there was demand for debug and > > non > > debug versions... So that's 3 x 3 x 2 = 18 different binaries for each > > release. > > > > At the end of the day, if you want a pre-compiled binary, it is far easier > > to > > let OS vendor do it for you. However, whereas most vendors are happy to > > include PSPP in their distribution (see https://pkgs.org/download/pspp > > <https://pkgs.org/download/pspp>) I > > suspect that if you wrote to Microsoft asking "Please include PSPP in the > > next > > release of Windows" you probably would not receive a reply. > > > > PSPP is a GNU project, and so supporting the GNU system comes first. Other > > free systems come second, and non-free systems such as Windows have the > > lowest priority. > > > > > > > > > >
