Sorry to butt into this list from out in left field, but I just have an odd question.
We have SPSS installed in our computer labs (which I maintain) and I'm trying to nudge the faculty over to PSPP, which they don't even want installed because "it might confuse the students". The sticking point is the GUI, or slim availability of charting there-in. Now, personally, I know little of stats and my SPSS skills include installing it, licensing it, starting it, and showing students where they've lost their data. So, my arguments about doing students a service by showing them open-source software that they can actually use, anywhere, instead of teaching proprietary garbage (anything with DRM is garbage as far as I'm concerned) that the student will have to steal to use at home... well, I'm not winning. So, I was thinking... Is there available, or has anyone considered building, an Open-Office plug-in that allows students to use the Calc GUI and charting while using the stats capabilities of PSPP? I mean, most of the time, the faculty are getting their students to create Word documents and then cut/paste the SPSS graphs into said documents. If it were entirely within the word processor, Calc embedded in Write for example, then it would have to be easier. Is there a documented PSPP work-flow for inputting, analyzing, charting, and creating a final document with the results. Again, I'm no stats expert, but there has to be an "easier to teach" way than what they are doing now. All I get is the same garbage argument about how they're trying to teach stats, not how to use a program, so it has to be easy. But, they way they're doing it, through multiple GUIs is NOT easy, and is very prone to errors and stupid formatting problems (that I get to help students solve). What they're really saying is that they don't want to bother learning a new way of doing it, even if it is better, and free, and they're paid 2-months out of every year to develop curriculum... ARRGGHH! So, if it's going to happen, I'm going to have to prove to them that I can get the same results with less effort, and in an easier-to-teach way. Okay, so that's a little bit more than one question (more of a rant really), but I'd appreciate any insights or pointers, David... P.S. Are there any progressive faculty using PSPP for entry-level STATS courses that I could pester for course notes? _________________________________________________________________ David English, Instructional Technologist, dengl...@camosun.bc.ca Computing Services, Information Technology Tel: (250) 370-3698 Camosun College, 3100 Foul Bay Rd. Victoria, B.C. Canada. V8P 5J2 _______________________________________________ Pspp-users mailing list Pspp-users@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/pspp-users