Thierry,

In addition to being very security conscious, they are also not very technical. 
 So they need a very easy to use application that doesn't use resources that 
are open to the web.  Desktop apps accessing a local SQL network tend to fit 
this category.  Many of them use .dbf tables because they can't even set up an 
SQL server (which the current VFP app also supports.)

With my other gig (a defense contractor), your approach would work just fine.

Take care,

Fletcher

Fletcher Johnson
[email protected]
408-946-0960 - Work
501-421-9629 - Fax


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
Thierry Nivelet
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 8:47 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [NF] Questions on migrating VFP app

Just completing my previous point ...

If your client has real irrational concerns about security, you can always 
install the 'web' server in his LAN, and keep maintenance control over it 
(upgrade, clean up, etc.) through a dedicated port specifically opened for your 
IP at your expressed request. 

That's how our more security addicts clients operate. 

Thierry Nivelet
http://foxincloud.com/
Give your VFP app a second life in the cloud

Le 23 juin 2011 à 04:48, Thierry Nivelet <[email protected]> a écrit :

> Fletcher, Jeff,
> 
> Regarding web apps, what security issue do you think of ?
> 
> We have clients with professional secret duty using web apps !
> 
> In the past data used to travel over the web; with Ajax web apps, only user 
> events and UI change orders travel, nothing significant or compromising; and 
> SSL easily fills this residual security 'leak'. 
> 
> Thierry Nivelet
> http://foxincloud.com/
> Give your VFP app a second life in the cloud
> 
> Le 22 juin 2011 à 23:23, "Fletcher Johnson" <[email protected]> a 
> écrit :
> 
>> Mike,
>> 
>> Due to security reasons, it cannot be a web or cloud based app.  So 
>> that limits some of the choices.  Also, it is for one of those 
>> markets where Windows desktops prevail almost universally.  So there 
>> is limited need for cross platform support.
>> 
>> We are planning on a long term conversion, with our goal being to 
>> have the entire application suite converted by the 2015.  This is not 
>> a trivial application.
>> 
>> So we will continue to support/enhance the VFP products.  But we are 
>> running into IT departments that are making roadblocks to new sales 
>> because of the
>> 2015 deadline.
>> 
>> What other languages would you recommend, now that you know more?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Fletcher
>> 
>> Fletcher Johnson
>> [email protected]
>> 408-946-0960 - Work
>> 501-421-9629 - Fax
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
>> Behalf Of MB Software Solutions, LLC
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 1:07 PM
>> To: ProFox Email List
>> Subject: Re: [NF] Questions on migrating VFP app
>> 
>> On 6/22/2011 3:58 PM, Fletcher Johnson wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I am working with a new company that has a successful VFP app that 
>>> they need to convert to .NET as MS will be cancelling support for 
>>> VFP soon and the customers IT departments are getting nervous.  So I 
>>> have been asked to help with a rewrite.
>>> 
>>> I am sure there have been many discussions on this topic.  Can 
>>> anyone point me to some of the more current and complete discussions 
>>> on this topic (on this list or otherwise)?
>>> 
>>> The new app will continue to be a desktop app and will have the same 
>>> interface (so there is no retraining required to implement the new
>> version).
>>> It currently has the option to have data stored as local .dbf tables 
>>> or on an MS SQL table.  So we also need to continue to support 
>>> local/disconnected data sets.
>>> 
>>> We are looking for suggestions on application frameworks, data 
>>> libraries (ORM, etc.), VS technologies
>>> (Silverlight/WPF/Winform/ADO/etc.)  and other resources that will 
>>> aid in the conversion.  We are not looking for something that will 
>>> just "convert" the code to .net as there are some key architectural 
>>> changes we
>> want to implement under the hood.
>>> 
>>> Any links or other references to point me in the right direction 
>>> will be greatly appreciated.
>> 
>> 
>> Wow!  Support doesn't officially end until 2015 I think, and even 
>> after that, it should last for YEARS!  Look at the large number of 
>> FPD, FPW and
>> pre-VFP9 apps out there yet!  BUT, I realize you're just a soldier 
>> following orders.  Are you familiar with any of the DotNet languages?
>> Must it be a Microsoft language?
>> 
>> --
>> Mike Babcock, MCP
>> MB Software Solutions, LLC
>> President, Chief Software Architect
>> http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com
>> http://fabmate.com
>> http://twitter.com/mbabcock16
>> 
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