My knowledge is very old, but when I programmed in Cobol, the 'database' was 
nothing but 'bytes on the disk'. The definition of the
fields were in the Cobol program. For those younger folks who know about sql, 
fox, etc, there was nothing in the 'database' that
would give you a clue about where the data was. It gets worse. Cobol allows 
overlaying data. I could have a 128 byte record, bytes
21-26 could be ASCII text and in a different record it could be a floating 
point. Again, the definition was in the Cobol code.
There would be one byte (for example) that would tell you how to interpret that 
record. In other words, without the code, you could
have a very hard time working with the data. Back in the old days, disk space 
and memory was extremely expensive so you had to do a
lot of dirty tricks in order to have a large database with reasonable access 
times. I code for healthcare. I remember packing the
diagnosis codes into binary so that we did not have to use 6 bytes. Hope that 
is clear.

This seems like a good opportunity for California to get some bids from ADP, 
Intuit, etc for a payroll program.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kevin Cully" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <profox@leafe.com>
Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 8:21 AM
Subject: Re: [NF] Amusement


I guess that's an interesting question.  What were the common databases
used with Cobol in its heyday?  DB2 perhaps?  I sure don't know.

-Kevin
CULLY Technologies, LLC


Kenneth Kixmoeller wrote:
> The COBOL is probably the UI to the database, and (as I'm sure every
> bureaucrat facing a huge pay cut will tell you): "That is the only
> way to do it! (So *there*, Gov.)"



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