> You are a highly respected Foxer. Since when do you have to stoop so low.
>

I understand and totally agree with the first statement.  Krystine is indeed
an esteemed member of the Fox community.  But I do not understand the 2nd
statement/question/comment, and I would like to think I misunderstood its
meaning.  I see nothing she Krystine did that causes me to think she stooped
low on any count.  As I see things she merely ran into a situation, had a
gut instinct, and called on her fellow FoxHeads to help provide their
thoughts.  Even if she were to go ahead and work for this person I would not
throw a rock at her.

I remember all too well when I would take any kind of work at all just to
get my foot into the game in the early days, and a few times after that when
things got so tight I was happy to have anything - even if it meant I was
working for a net $5.00/hour after all the, "Oh, by the way, since you are
already here..." issues.  It was more money than I had before, and prospects
in my early days were few and far between.  That said, it could happen
again, to any of us.  And it would not be beneath me to stoop low to
generate revenue in an environment I would otherwise not have considered
wrking within if it meant the difference between bread on the table and not.


Gil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Sytze de Boer
> Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 3:15 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [NF] Clients naming their own terms...
>
>
> A very good friend of mine asked me if I wanted to quote for the supply of
> IT equipment.
> The quote was in excess of $100,000
> He then showed me the quotes from other companies with comment like 'I
> really want you to have the business'.
> I revised my quote because I really wanted the business.
> He came back and showed me their revised quotes, because "I
> really want you
> to have the business."
> I told him I wanted to withdraw both quotes.
> He queried why
> I told him it was because he did not understand why I wanted to withdraw
> both quotes.
>
> Krystine
> You are a highly respected Foxer. Since when do you have to stoop so low.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 6:54 AM, Gil Hale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > If he relents and pays your rate, however, you
> > > would have to take the job if you use rate as your reason.
> >
> > I respectfully beg to differ.  I do not feel the money has
> anything to do
> > with the situation any longer.  It is his attitude.  I hate to suggest
> > anyone turn work away, but it seems to me there is no respect
> or trust on
> > both sides of this fence.  Sure, trust must be earned, but to
> dictate what
> > will be paid, when and how?  Take it or leave it?  Perhaps I am reading
> > more
> > into the situation than I should with the info at hand.  But my
> gut tells
> > me
> > it is best to simply state "I do not feel I can meet your
> needs.", and let
> > it go at that.  For that matter, even at double the regular
> billing rate I
> > would consider letting him go elsewhere.
> >
> >
> > Gil
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Pete Theisen
> > > Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 2:40 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: [NF] Clients naming their own terms...
> > >
> > >
> > > Kristyne McDaniel wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > > I got back from a court status meeting, and lo and behold
> > > there's a PayPal
> > > > deposit in my account -- but it is for the amount he wanted to
> > > pay rather
> > > > than the amount I requested.
> > > >
> > > > Guys, please tell me that it is wise to refuse to work for this
> > > guy. I just
> > > > smell a rat and I don't want to even deal with him. I'm of
> > > course refunding
> > > > his deposit.
> > >
> > > Hi Kristyne!
> > >
> > > You could try telling him that you have learned from long experience
> > > that you have to charge what you charge. Since he is
> obviously unwilling
> > > to let you make your costs and simple wages you think it best that he
> > > find someone who has lesser costs and wages than you have.
> > >
> > > You could just send a note to this effect if you think you
> might pop off
> > > at him on the phone. If he relents and pays your rate, however, you
> > > would have to take the job if you use rate as your reason.
> > > --
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Pete
> > > http://pete-theisen.com/
> > >
> > >
[excessive quoting removed by server]

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