John,

> "you know I
> don't think I've ever heard anything quite this terrible, have you
> considered suicide?" She smacked me, then fell out laughing!!!

Steve's main technique is to help his kids develop a set of options that
they can consider. He calls it "living like you are on your arm", and he
illustrates by wiggling his fingers, and says they need at least as many
options as they have fingers on their hand. Then they work through options
for each finger that they can do which are NOT suicide, keeping suicide as
one of the options -- in reserve.

You can't talk a suicidal person out of suicide. All you can do is show them
it is not their only option, and keep them redirected at the other choices.
After enough time has gone by and they've selected the other options often
enough, the suicide option looks less and less attractive.

But the reality is that suicidal people never really give up on the idea. It
is always in the back of their heads somewhere whether they are talking
about it or not. And whether they joke about it or not, it is serious
business with them. If they don't have the tools to redirect their thoughts,
one day they will indeed kill themselves.

Kristyne McDaniel
http://www.mcstyles.com
http://www.mcteachoncoins.com




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