John, > "you know I > don't think I've ever heard anything quite this terrible, have you > considered suicide?" She smacked me, then fell out laughing!!!
Steve's main technique is to help his kids develop a set of options that they can consider. He calls it "living like you are on your arm", and he illustrates by wiggling his fingers, and says they need at least as many options as they have fingers on their hand. Then they work through options for each finger that they can do which are NOT suicide, keeping suicide as one of the options -- in reserve. You can't talk a suicidal person out of suicide. All you can do is show them it is not their only option, and keep them redirected at the other choices. After enough time has gone by and they've selected the other options often enough, the suicide option looks less and less attractive. But the reality is that suicidal people never really give up on the idea. It is always in the back of their heads somewhere whether they are talking about it or not. And whether they joke about it or not, it is serious business with them. If they don't have the tools to redirect their thoughts, one day they will indeed kill themselves. Kristyne McDaniel http://www.mcstyles.com http://www.mcteachoncoins.com _______________________________________________ Post Messages to: [email protected] Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.

