Hey Ted! It's snowing here in lovely MA right now... Happy April!

I agree but it's not so much the users getting creative with the required 
formats (well, generally speaking...). The issue is what when the Belgian user 
exports the data from Excel, it's going to default to semis and no quotes and 
then our current import routine will choke. Ultimately I think I'm going to 
have to build a pre-import parsing method.

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rk

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From: ProfoxTech <profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com> On Behalf Of Ted Roche
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 10:26 AM
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: Re: Variations in CSV settings by region

We did a lot of this in the 90s and aughts, with customers as far away as 
Louisiana and Indiana ;) and no one agrees on what CSV "standard" means.
You could go the "AI" way of performing a FileToStr() and trying to parse out 
what the creator intended, but I think that might be overkill, and dates are 
ambiguous, even on a good day. "3/8/20" means... ?

Our customers were in a similar situation: their customers were shipping them 
price lists and inventory lists in every format known. When they would explain 
they needed the format to be stable, the next month's sheets would show up with 
new columns added (and sometimes hidden!) and others re-arranged. We ended up 
leaving it to our customers to use Excel to import what they were sent, and 
reformat it as needed to a standard format, and exporting THAT as a strict CSV 
to import into the system. It was too much work to reinvent the wheel already 
built into Excel.

"Be liberal in what you accept, but strict in what you emit" -- Postel's Law, 
roughly. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robustness_principle)

On Fri, Apr 16, 2021 at 9:42 AM Richard Kaye <rk...@invaluable.com> wrote:

> Throwing this one out to the collective wisdom. We're doing a lot with 
> CSV import/experts these days with our web-based WWC application and 
> are running into issues with regionalization. Here in the US, a 
> "standard" CSV means commas between data elements and double quotes around 
> text elements.
> But in Belgium, the delimiter is the semi-colon and text elements are 
> not wrapped in double quotes. As best I can tell, Excel determines 
> what format to use by the OS settings and not its own application 
> settings. This makes importing from a CSV a bit of a dance for our 
> Belgian clients as they have to change their regional settings, import 
> the file that was received in US format, and then change their 
> settings back. And, of course, changing region affects date and 
> currency formats. For those of you working with clients from multiple 
> locations where the standards may be different, what strategies do you use to 
> deal with this?
>
> TIA
>
> --
>
> rk
>
>
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