On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 11:38 AM, Kurt Wendt <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Stephen,
>
> I can see that this SQL stuff gets you a bit heated up.
>
> I know you say that I should NOT be thinking about the Server. But -
> Understand - the Specific task I was given was to make sure that upon the
> Start-up of the App in question - that IT could intelligently switch
> between our regular Production server and the DR server (Disaster Recovery)
> - should the Production server be down. As such - that's what I am trying
> to concentrate on.
>
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This is an automatic situation for failover to your mirror.  The API does
this all, unless of course there really is no Replication.  Scary to hear
that you might instead have defined a warm backup for catching transaction
logs and applying them.  If that is the case I shudder if it ever happens.


When I said db below I was thinking of server\db assocation.  Having
multiple DBs and accessing them is easy because you just pass in Select *
from [DBName].dbo.TableName instead of Select * from TableName

If they that db is on a different machine/instance you just set up a linked
server and and that as well.

select * from [Server\Instance].[DBName].dbo.TableName

Just watch out for passing lists in the where class from one
server\instance to the other.  That will make things go real slow!

*--*As for Switching Stuff - the request I was given was to make sure that
upon startup - This App can switch over to the DR server.  For right now -
that is my ONLY task at this point in time - regarding this issue.

This sets off warning bells in my head.  It is easy to say just do it but
the implication that everything is consistent between servers up until the
failover is the crux of point.  I do not know how you were keeping the two
in sync.


*--*-*When you refer to "The API" which "feeds to the proper Server for
you" - are you referring to a routine within the VFP APP?

NOPE!  Sql Server is an API that you can touch with proper creds presented
in your connection string.  That API defines everything.  In a replication
situation it knows about the two servers, live and backup(n).  It routes
you to the LIVE one all the time even if the objects are all on backup2 in
Texas instead of the local server room.  The user is rarely aware that the
failover happened and stuff just rolls on.

When it comes to bringing everything back up that is when backups may have
to be restored and the sync is reset between, then the failover back to
primary db server takes place.

Point is You think you are hitting SERVER ABC but the failover is really
hitting SERVER XYZ and nobody had to do anything along the way.

Oh yeah a connection to SERVER ABC never existed against SERVER XYZ, thus
if your VFP form with data tries to update the backend it will fail, which
is the initial problem I referenced.  Normally in C/S code we always get a
connection, do our stuff and then terminate the conn.   This way we never
expect the same connection to be valid 3 seconds, 3 min or 3 hours later.

I think this book will cover what is happening on the server side:
http://it-ebooks.info/book/82/





>
> I have a Rather Overwhelming amount of projects that I have to work on
> here. And, just recently - this particular system was dumped upon me to
> support - so that the other Developer could concentrate on developing a New
> version of the system using .Net - which will replace the current VFP
> version. And, this request having to do w/Disaster Recovery - was totally
> "out of the blue". To make matters worse - they are having some kind of
> Systems Audit on Mon. - and that's why I need to Rush to get some proper
> coding in place.
>
> Also - you mentioned " ONE database in this situation ". That's actually
> not true. The app I am working on has a specific Database which holds most
> of its Data. But, it also needs to access Another Database - that's
> specific to Another system here - since both systems are related.
>
> When you refer to "The API" which "feeds to the proper Server for you" -
> are you referring to a routine within the VFP APP?
>
> As for Switching Stuff - the request I was given was to make sure that
> upon startup - This App can switch over to the DR server.  For right now -
> that is my ONLY task at this point in time - regarding this issue.
>
> And - yes, its SQL Server 2008.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ProfoxTech [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
> Stephen Russell
> Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 12:21 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Connecting to SQL via VFP w/Failover...
>
> On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 10:57 AM, Kurt Wendt <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > Alright - a final follow-up.
> >
> > OK - as previously mentioned - my systems guy said I should only
> > connect to a Database if it's in Principal mode and Not in Mirror mode.
> >
> > So, to test this out - I connected into the Albany server using MSSM
> > Studio. And, when I went to look at one of the Databases in particular
> > - I saw that it had the status of Mirror. Where as, in another session
> > of MSSM Studio - I logged into our NYC Server - and the same Database
> > had the mode of Pricipal. Sure, that's all well and good - and what I
> expected.
> >
> > Then I tried connecting to the Albany Server - and to that particular
> > Database - using the same login credentials I used in MSSM Studio.
> > Upon running that SQLSTRINGCONNECT statement - it returned a value of
> > "-1" as the statement handle.
> >
> > -----------------------------
>
> There is only ONE database in this situation.  The API will direct all
> feeds to the proper Server for you.  You NEVER just switch stuff like this
> and think YOU HAVE TO change.  Hence why I said this is tricky.
>
> Before you accidently screw things up you need to research WTF is going on
> on the API side and stop thinking about the server(s).
>
> What version of SQL are you running, 2008 or more recent?
>
> This is a MAJOR issue and not an easy little fix BTW.
>
>
>
>
>
> > So - my assumption is that - even though the SQLSTRINGCONNECT could
> > connect to the Server, and could "See" the Database in question - it
> "knew"
> > to return back a value of "-1" since the Database was in Mirror mode -
> > and should thus NOT be used.
> >
> > Am I right? I suspect in this case - my assumption is correct. But,
> > figured I should just get verification from those folks more
> > knowledgeable in this area than myself (a kind of newbie for some of
> this SQL stuff)...
> >
> > Thanks again,
> > -K-
> > -----------------
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
> --
> Stephen Russell
> Sr. Analyst
> Ring Container Technology
> Oakland TN
>
> 901.246-0159 cell
>
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