One big difference in the Software market is the relative lack of regulation of 
the actual people who write software. How many times do you hear the phrase "I 
know someone who can write software...." and it turns out that it is the boss's 
son who has developed ons Excel spreadsheet in his life.

I would never employ, or in fact be allowed to employ someone to fit a gas 
boiler who hadn't been registered with an appropriate federation qualification 
which here in the UK is what is called the Corgi (or it used to be called) 
registration. Someone simply saying they are a gas fitter wouldn't cut the 
mustard with me I'm afraid.

Unfortunately many developers in lots of companies actually "grow" into the job 
leaving the results of their learning as a trail of destruction. OK< it is 
possible to develop skills purely through experience as many of the Profox 
community have over the years but now the marketplace is more stable the 
software business needs to be populated by more "professionals" as opposed to 
learned amateurs. There should be a place for the amateur to develop his/her 
skills  in the industry but unfortunately this aspect seems to be sadly missing.

When I started in the industry we started off a junior programmer, rising to 
the heights of senior programmer, then to systems analyst and finally 
consultant level and then as a business consultant where you could integrate 
technical knowledge with business knowhow and acumen.
I am thankful that now I can look at projects from all perspectives, both 
technical and business. In the UK, as I guess elsewhere, this progression of 
one's career was destroyed when apprenticeships were virtually abolished in the 
early 70's. My development into the above hierarchy after leaving university 
with a computing/maths degree has equipped me with many varied skills, both 
technical and social, which I sadly see missing in many of the younger people.

Dave

-----Original Message-----
From: ProFox [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Virgil Bierschwale
Sent: 02 May 2013 15:55
To: 'ProFox Email List'
Subject: RE: [NF] The Tech Industry's Darkest Secret: It's All About Age

Amen to that one..

Seriously folks.

It doesn't matter if it is software, building homes, or whatever.

The majority of people that build a product to sell to a client are more than 
willing to stand behind that product because they want that person to be their 
customer for life.

It is only the large corporations that have forgotten that they need the 
customer that does not understand this simple policy


-----Original Message-----
From: ProFox [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ken Dibble
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2013 9:52 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [NF] The Tech Industry's Darkest Secret: It's All About Age


>You wouldn't have any software companies because the market had too 
>many barriers to enter and or endure.

This is the standard whine of all business people. When the regulations come, 
they stay in business and continue to make a profit. It's completely bogus.

Ken Dibble
www.stic-cil.org 


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