Geoff, On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 11:24 PM, geoff <data...@adam.com.au> wrote: > That's very insightful. I've also noticed that the Republicans seem intent > on destroying Obama and if that destroys the economy in the process then > that's ok. My political affiliations would normally run to being > republican-like but Bush turned me right off by his incompetence. But the > way the republicans behave now Id never support them ever again (not that I > vote in use elections anyhow). The USA's moribund political system is a far > greater threat to security than terrorism ever was. The Cold War was nothing > compared to the destruction wrought by your incredibly hopeless politicians > and political systems.
The republican (small r) nature of our Constitution, with its separation of powers, bicameral legislature, and bill of rights, remains good. Unfortunately, it's only an idea now, as the Constitution has been good for little more than toilet paper in quite a while. What the American system has become since Woodrow Wilson decided to let the bankers run our money supply, tax our people and in his words 'make the world safe for democracy' is another matter. One of the motivations of our founders was the mitigation of majority faction. The two party system, particularly in the last 50 years, has figured out how to neuter that design feature of the Constitution, and so what we have now looks rather different than it was intended. 'A republic -- if you can keep it,' said Ben Franklin. We kept it for awhile, but lost it. Whether we can get it back remains doubtful, no matter who wins. Neither party gets the concept anymore. - Publius > > -----Original Message----- > From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf > Of lelandj > Sent: Thursday, 2 February 2012 8:28 AM > To: ProFox Email List > Subject: Re: [OT] good news if true > > On 02/01/2012 03:21 PM, Michael Madigan wrote: >> Gallup is trash now. > > I wouldn't pay much attention to this poll. The 2012 election is coming on > the heals of the Great Recession of 2007-2009. The greed of Wall Street, > previous political administrations, the real estate markets, and financial > institutions drove the American economy into the ground. Many people have > been cleaned out by the greedy bastards, losing there saving, retirement > funds, college fund, homes, and some have lost everything. While the > American people suffered, they were asked to save those who wronged them. > > President Obama has been attacked by a predominately Republican congress > that uses passive-aggressive tactic to blacken his eye buy defeating all > legislation aimed at giving the Aerican people a win against the recession > and it aftermath. > > With the economy still seriously ill and government in deadlock, people are > bitter and fear for their futures, They want someone to blame for harm done > them. This is what makes this election different and not comparable to > previous election, where low approval rating would be much more telling. > > Regards, > > LelandJ > > > >> >> ________________________________ >> From: lelandj<lela...@mail.smvfp.com> >> To: ProFox Email List<profox@leafe.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, February 1, 2012 4:14 PM >> Subject: Re: [OT] good news if true >> >> It's way to early to be publishing, who is going to "lose" the >> election. LOL Most polls focus on who is likely to win an election. >> >> This poll is obviously pure rubbish and based on President Obama's >> current approval ratings in the various states. What about the >> approval rating of Congress? What about the approval rating of >> whoever energies as the Republican nominee? The percent of error in >> this kind of trash is probably around 50%, LOL, or higher, if a >> candidate from a third party enters the fray. >> >> As Mark Twain once said: There are lies, damn lies, and then there's >> statistics. LOL >> >> Regards, >> >> LelandJ >> >> >> On 02/01/2012 02:52 PM, Michael Oke, II wrote: >>> Didn't even look did you? Shoes presidential approval rating and > extrapolates his chances of reelection based on that. Sad commentary on the > miserable job don by the current resident of 1600 Pennsylvania. >>> >>> >>> Michael Oke, II >>> 661-349-6221 >>> >>> Contents of this and all messages are intended for their designated > recipient. >>> >>> On Feb 1, 2012, at 12:51 PM, lelandj<lela...@mail.smvfp.com> wrote: >>> >>>> They're publishing polls numbers already, and we don't even know the >>>> Republican nominee that will be running against him yet. LOL >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> LelandJ >>>> >>>> >>>> On 02/01/2012 02:12 PM, Michael Madigan wrote: >>>>> http://campaign2012.washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidenti >>>>> al/gallup-state-numbers-predict-huge-obama-loss/352881 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- >>>>> multipart/alternative >>>>> text/plain (text body -- kept) >>>>> text/html >>>>> --- >>>>> [excessive quoting removed by server] _______________________________________________ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/caeut0laxc9hfc0f-a7ljwwoyc+jodcfedx5zynjjp7zidi4...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
