Have you made up your mind on Faeries and Nymphs yet?
--- Leland Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I haven't made up my mind yet to what extent the > Neo-conservative Bush > Administration was responsible for 9/11, and its > aftermath. Let's look > at the possibilities: > > 1) The wars occurring today in the ME were planned > back before, 1996 > when the PNAC (eg Project for a New American > Century), website was > launched. 9/11 was the planned pretext used to > launch the wars. > > 2) The Bush Administration was aware of the coming > 9/11 attack, but > decided to use it as a catalyst to launch wars in > the ME, rather than > thwart the attack. > > 3) The Bush Administration was caught complete > unprepared for an > extremist attack, like the one that occurred on > 9/11, but later decided > to use the attack to unite the country by > terrorizing the American > people into going to war in the ME. > > 4) The Bush administration was completely > incompetent in safeguarding > our country against an attack like the one of 9/11, > and subsequently > divided the country in wars in the ME with failed > policy that the > American people were told would Democratize the ME, > making America a > safer place. > > Which one was it Bob? > > Regards, > > LelandJ > > > Bob Calco wrote: > > >! > >! What you don't understand is if we Americans > become so > >! terrorized by a > >! small group of extremist that we forfeit our > rights under the > >! Constitution and Bill of right, then the > extremist have already won. > > > >! The American way of life has a long heritage and > I don't want to see > > > >! that heritage destroyed. > > > >Again, if you believe that the hypothesis of the > film to which you > >linked is plausible, there is no way you can > believe it's a "small > >group of extremists". Such a plot would take so > much logistical > >support to pull off, and it would all have to go so > perfectly, that > >the magnitude of the cabal cooperating in the > deceptions would have to > >be, well, the entire federal government (including > the so-called > >'opposition') and several other world governments > to boot. > > > >I don't for instance see any way you can argue that > the Clintons are > >anything more than puppets of the Bushes, if you > believe all that > >stuff. > > > >Your average political extremist is full of > opinions, spouts them off > >freely and openly (usually hoping vainly to > persuade somebody of > >something), but has precisely zero influence on > what happens in > >government, even down to what day of the week his > trash is collected. > >Just look at me and Bill! > > > >;-) > > > >It's the 'pragmatists' who get anything done, and > they are usually > >ideologically neutral, focused solely on being in > power, which usually > >just requires promising free beer (or some > policy-wonk > >equivalent)---never the kind of thing the maker of > that film portrays. > > > >Of course you can apply the "Who Benefits?" > question recursively to > >the filmmaker---who benefits if this horrible truth > becomes known? > >It's much easier to make a plausible "shocking" > piece of political > >propaganda, a "politics of personal destruction" > hit piece if there > >ever was one, than it is to pull of such a complex > operation, > >particularly for a government that wasn't even on > its feet yet and had > >so many enemies inside the ranks of the very > agencies whose complete > >and hermetically sealed cooperation would be > required. > > > >- Bob > > > >! > >! The American people are strong and have a history > of raising to the > >! occasion in defense of our way of life with > provides free > >enterprise, > >! freedoms of speech and expression, freedoms of > religion, > >! freedoms of the > >! press, rights to due process to insure justice > for all, and last, > >but > >! not least, rights to privacy. I don't think the > American > >! people can be > >! terrorized into giving up the American way of > life. Rather American > > > >! should stand up to fight extremism in all its > forms, so as to > >protect > >! our American heritage and way of life. > >! > >! Regards, > >! > >! LelandJ > >! > >! Michael Madigan wrote: > >! > >! >What you fail to realize is if people like you > got the > >! >NSA wiretapping and Patriot Act stopped, we > would have > >! >had another 911. > >! > > >! >Republicans: Keeping us safe. > >! > > >! >--- Leland Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >! > > >! > > >! > > >! >>I am so glad that the recent terrorist plot was > >! >>thwarted. If it had > >! >>succeeded, Americans could have kissed their > >! >>Constitution and Bill of > >! >>Right goodbye, forfeiting freedoms, liberties, > >! >>privacy, due process and > >! >>rights to a God of their own understanding. > We, as > >! >>Americans, are so > >! >>easy to terrorize. At the first hint of > danger, we > >! >>all run for cover, > >! >>anxious to bargain away our Constitutional > rights > >! >>for protection form > >! >>the evil that is lurking in every shadow. We, > as > >! >>Americans, need the > >! >>backbone to stand up to terrorist, and the > backbone > >! >>to stand up for our > >! >>Constitutional rights at the same time. > >! >> > >! >>Even though this recent plot was unsuccessful, > I am > >! >>watching closely to > >! >>see if the Bush Administration follows it > trend, and > >! >>trys to make > >! >>another grab for power thought legislation or > other > >! >>means because of > >! >>this recent threat. It will be interesting to > see > >! >>how it plays out. > >! >> > >! >>Regards, > >! >> > === message truncated === _______________________________________________ Post Messages to: [email protected] Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. 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