I haven't made up my mind yet to what extent the Neo-conservative Bush
Administration was responsible for 9/11, and its aftermath. Let's look
at the possibilities:
1) The wars occurring today in the ME were planned back before, 1996
when the PNAC (eg Project for a New American Century), website was
launched. 9/11 was the planned pretext used to launch the wars.
2) The Bush Administration was aware of the coming 9/11 attack, but
decided to use it as a catalyst to launch wars in the ME, rather than
thwart the attack.
3) The Bush Administration was caught complete unprepared for an
extremist attack, like the one that occurred on 9/11, but later decided
to use the attack to unite the country by terrorizing the American
people into going to war in the ME.
4) The Bush administration was completely incompetent in safeguarding
our country against an attack like the one of 9/11, and subsequently
divided the country in wars in the ME with failed policy that the
American people were told would Democratize the ME, making America a
safer place.
Which one was it Bob?
Regards,
LelandJ
Bob Calco wrote:
!
! What you don't understand is if we Americans become so
! terrorized by a
! small group of extremist that we forfeit our rights under the
! Constitution and Bill of right, then the extremist have already won.
! The American way of life has a long heritage and I don't want to see
! that heritage destroyed.
Again, if you believe that the hypothesis of the film to which you
linked is plausible, there is no way you can believe it's a "small
group of extremists". Such a plot would take so much logistical
support to pull off, and it would all have to go so perfectly, that
the magnitude of the cabal cooperating in the deceptions would have to
be, well, the entire federal government (including the so-called
'opposition') and several other world governments to boot.
I don't for instance see any way you can argue that the Clintons are
anything more than puppets of the Bushes, if you believe all that
stuff.
Your average political extremist is full of opinions, spouts them off
freely and openly (usually hoping vainly to persuade somebody of
something), but has precisely zero influence on what happens in
government, even down to what day of the week his trash is collected.
Just look at me and Bill!
;-)
It's the 'pragmatists' who get anything done, and they are usually
ideologically neutral, focused solely on being in power, which usually
just requires promising free beer (or some policy-wonk
equivalent)---never the kind of thing the maker of that film portrays.
Of course you can apply the "Who Benefits?" question recursively to
the filmmaker---who benefits if this horrible truth becomes known?
It's much easier to make a plausible "shocking" piece of political
propaganda, a "politics of personal destruction" hit piece if there
ever was one, than it is to pull of such a complex operation,
particularly for a government that wasn't even on its feet yet and had
so many enemies inside the ranks of the very agencies whose complete
and hermetically sealed cooperation would be required.
- Bob
!
! The American people are strong and have a history of raising to the
! occasion in defense of our way of life with provides free
enterprise,
! freedoms of speech and expression, freedoms of religion,
! freedoms of the
! press, rights to due process to insure justice for all, and last,
but
! not least, rights to privacy. I don't think the American
! people can be
! terrorized into giving up the American way of life. Rather American
! should stand up to fight extremism in all its forms, so as to
protect
! our American heritage and way of life.
!
! Regards,
!
! LelandJ
!
! Michael Madigan wrote:
!
! >What you fail to realize is if people like you got the
! >NSA wiretapping and Patriot Act stopped, we would have
! >had another 911.
! >
! >Republicans: Keeping us safe.
! >
! >--- Leland Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
! >
! >
! >
! >>I am so glad that the recent terrorist plot was
! >>thwarted. If it had
! >>succeeded, Americans could have kissed their
! >>Constitution and Bill of
! >>Right goodbye, forfeiting freedoms, liberties,
! >>privacy, due process and
! >>rights to a God of their own understanding. We, as
! >>Americans, are so
! >>easy to terrorize. At the first hint of danger, we
! >>all run for cover,
! >>anxious to bargain away our Constitutional rights
! >>for protection form
! >>the evil that is lurking in every shadow. We, as
! >>Americans, need the
! >>backbone to stand up to terrorist, and the backbone
! >>to stand up for our
! >>Constitutional rights at the same time.
! >>
! >>Even though this recent plot was unsuccessful, I am
! >>watching closely to
! >>see if the Bush Administration follows it trend, and
! >>trys to make
! >>another grab for power thought legislation or other
! >>means because of
! >>this recent threat. It will be interesting to see
! >>how it plays out.
! >>
! >>Regards,
! >>
! >>LelandJ
! >>
! >>
! >>Bob Calco wrote:
! >>
! >>
! >>
! >>>Both that video and this one:
! >>>
! >>>
! >>>
! >>http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8439228734279462200
! >>
! >>
! >>
! >>>...provided me with great entertainment this
! >>>
! >>>
! >>evening, for which,
! >>
! >>
! >>>Leland, I am most grateful. :)
! >>>
! >>>I had no idea Bush deliberately murdered all the
! >>>
! >>>
! >>9/11 victims *and*
! >>
! >>
! >>>JFK too!
! >>>
! >>>ROTFLMAO!
! >>>
! >>>- Bob
! >>>
! >>>! -----Original Message-----
! >>>! From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
! >>>! [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
! >>>
! >>>
! >>Leland Jackson
! >>
! >>
! >>>! Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 11:15 PM
! >>>! To: [email protected]
! >>>! Subject: [OT] Question abaout 9/11
! >>>!
! >>>! I found this over on UT, which is interesting, so
! >>>
! >>>
! >>I share it here
! >>
! >>
! >>>for
! >>>! those who may not have yet seen it:
! >>>!
! >>>!
! >>>
! >>>
! >http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1519312457137943386
! >
! >
! >>>!
! >>>! Regards,
! >>>!
! >>>! LelandJ
! >>>!
! >>>!
! >>>
! >>>
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