postfix-users@postfix.org wrote in
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 |On Sat, Mar 11, 2023 at 01:54:01AM +0100, Steffen Nurpmeso via Postfix-u\
 |sers wrote:
 |
 |> - sign the entire message as for now,
 |
 |You're confusing the message and the envelope.

..no?  No.

 |> - but include a "cramped=1" tag that signals that all receivers
 |>   are actually covered by the DKIM signature, so
 |
 |The envelope is not part of the signed message, and the envelope changes

That "cramped=1" would be in the usual DKIM header, i'd presume.

 |in transit, and is knowable to the message signer when the message is

(But mostly MUST NOT with some SHOULD NOTs, right?)

 |first submitted to the mail system.
 |
 |Whatever problem you're trying to solve, it has nothing to do with
 |DKIM.

I was talking RFC 6376.
They try to deal with DKIM replay, and a real (beside all
the babble) suggestion was exactly what i wrote.
So the message would be signed just as now, but to avoid replay
the actual RCPT-TO would get its own additional signed Header
field (i would think that was the idea), so that had to be spliced
into the RCPT-TO:<> specific variant of the message.

(The alternative to fullfil this RCPT-TO:<> specific variant would
be to sign _the entire message_ for each RCPT-TO:<>, which is more
expensive.  This is what the MUA i maintain does for S/MIME
encryption, but i think at scale this would be way more expensive
for say a ML that DKIM signs than simply preparing the message and
prepending a RCPT-TO:<> specific signed DKIM addition that is
signalled via a tag in the normal DKIM signature.)

But i treat your answer as if milters will not do that.

--steffen
|
|Der Kragenbaer,                The moon bear,
|der holt sich munter           he cheerfully and one by one
|einen nach dem anderen runter  wa.ks himself off
|(By Robert Gernhardt)
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