> On Jan 11, 2022, at 2:07 PM, Dan Mahoney <d...@prime.gushi.org> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jan 11, 2022, at 10:38 AM, Claus R. Wickinghoff <cl...@mobile.oche.de 
>> <mailto:cl...@mobile.oche.de>> wrote:
>> 
>> Mojn,
>> 
>>> Today I find only a directory listing at www.postfix.org 
>>> <http://www.postfix.org/> or www.postfix.com <http://www.postfix.com/>
>> With http it's working.
>> 
>> With https I get a certificate warning (issued for archive.science.uu.nl 
>> <http://archive.science.uu.nl/>) and a directory listing.
>> 
>> So might be a regional problem?
> 
> Regional?
> 
> There's no vhost configured for www.postfix.org:443 
> <http://www.postfix.org:443/>, that's why you're seeing a different site.
> 
> The site that's answering is the first one configured in apache for 
> 131.211.31.189:443, and thus will answer regardless of which Host: header is 
> sent, just as if you browsed to it via IP address.  (Which would also give 
> you a cert mismatch warning).

It’s an odd thing for a major project like Postfix to have this type of setup.

If someone types “https://www.postfix.org/ <https://www.postfix.org/>“, or has 
a browser that uses https by default, and accepts any warnings, they land on 
another site.

And if the answer is “don’t accept the override”, I mean I guess maybe someone 
will try http eventually, or they may figure the whole thing is screwy and just 
go hunting for a mirror...

Just a weird hill to die on. Certs are free.

Charles

> 
> If we want something to be concerned about, the apache version is like...40 
> minor versions out of date.   (2.4.6 -- it could be lying about its version).
> 
> -Dan

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