On Fri, Jul 16, 2021 at 05:12:38PM +1000, raf <post...@raf.org> wrote:

> On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 02:51:25PM +1000, raf <post...@raf.org> wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 10:35:15PM -0400, Bill Cole 
> > <postfixlists-070...@billmail.scconsult.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > On 2021-07-13 at 21:18:46 UTC-0400 (Wed, 14 Jul 2021 11:18:46 +1000)
> > > raf <post...@raf.org>
> > > is rumored to have said:
> > > 
> > > > I'm beginning to think that DKIM headers might be
> > > >  getting added just to improve spam detection scores.
> > > >  Perhaps I'm getting too cynical. :-)
> > > 
> > > That would not be very effective.
> > > 
> > > For example: in Apache SpamAssassin, the presence of a valid DKIM 
> > > signature
> > > has a net zero score. If it is valid and aligns with both the envelope
> > > sender and the From header address, it can net only -0.2 in a scoring 
> > > system
> > > with a standard spam threshold of 5.0. That's not quite a meaningless
> > > benefit, but it is not substantial.
> 
> It seems that there are corporate mail services that
> operate differently (well, at least one).
> 
> According to this:
> 
>   https://postmarkapp.com/blog/proof-dkim-and-senderid-improve-delivery
> 
> DKIM can mean the difference between mail being put in
> the Junk folder or the Inbox (when there's a PDF
> attachment). It might be to help services like
> mailchimp. I've received mail From: gmail.com with a
> mailchimpapp.net DKIM signing domain (so really sent by
> mailchimp).

And mail-tester.com, which purports to tell you how
"deliverable" your mail is, scores mail on a
not-spammy-scale from 1 to 10. One whole point (10%!)
is given for DKIM signing. That's sad. I like the fact
that the mere presence of a DKIM header makes
spamassassin treat an email as ever so slightly more
spammy (+0.1), unless it's valid (-0.1), in which case
it has no bearing on spam status, unless it also matches
the from address (-0.1), but even then it's not important.

cheers,
raf

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