Gary> What ISP specifically bans Digital Ocean?
Charter/Spectrum. Gary> What you need is some other email account, say proton, to start Gary> the dialog with the ISP that bans your Digital Ocean account. Or Gary> you look for some online form or forum. I had this problem with Gary> SBC (AT&T) and eventually got whitelisted by IP address. I moved Gary> the droplet once and had to get whitelisted again. They ban-hammered the entire DO IP block from what I've heard. Gary> I do email all the time with users on Comcast, Cox, and Gary> Google. I have SPF and DKIM, so I am very traceable. It is Gary> important not to look like a spammer. Exactly! I have SPF setup, but not DKIM yet. Gary> I can say with 100% foot stomping fist pounding on the table Gary> certainty that using hosted services is far worse than a Gary> VPS. You share your IP with enough accounts that eventually one Gary> will get you on a banned list. I'm on a VPS with a dedicated IP address assigned to my domain (stoffel.org). Gary> If you want to spend some money, Google can host email using Gary> your domain. If you don't have a lot of users, it isn't that Gary> expensive. Something like $5 per user. The service is poorly Gary> named. Something like Google Apps. That's an option, but not what I want to do since I like full control of my email and domain. Gary> Fast Mail has some forwarding service, but you will fail SPF. I Gary> have to white users of their service. I'm looking at Vultr VPS now as a test. Gary> Original Message Gary> From: j...@stoffel.org Gary> Sent: February 21, 2019 6:08 AM Gary> To: li...@lazygranch.com Gary> Cc: postfix-users@postfix.org Gary> Subject: Re: How to protect against compromised email account password >>>>> "Gary" == Gary <li...@lazygranch.com> writes: Gary> Number 4 is immensely useful. When I had a hosted service, I got hacked from someone in Morocco via a Round Cube exploit that wasn't patched. (My PayPal account subsequently hacked, though I had the account suspended.) Gary> I saw two problems. One, I only use mail clients. Browsers leak. Two, I don't even have a passport, so sending mail from foreign countries isn't something I need. My hosting provider was having none of my ideas of restricting access, so I got a cloud account and did my own hosting. Gary> I use the firewall to block all email ports except 25 from foreign countries. In addition, I block datacenters except my own IPs. Ip2location can provide a country by county list of the IP space for free. Gary> As a Digital Ocean customer, I know I'm am hanging out with a Gary> small but active number of lowlifes. That is the nature of a Gary> business model where you pay for a server and you can do Gary> whatever you want until you get caught. Gary> Unfortunately, some big ISPs have now blocked all Digital Ocean IP Gary> Blocks, and wont' accept email, even though my domain is locked down, Gary> doesn't spam, etc. They took the big hammer approach. Which sucks Gary> for me. Gary> So the question becomes how do I setup a reasonably cost effective Gary> personal email domain without it getting banned?
