my point is that i already map this error to a perm one but in this case a
backup mx was avail that was tls aware and was used in a second attempt. i
like the noticed behavior but asked, why it is like that. expected perm
error and bounce like when no backup mx avail.

Am Dienstag, 18. September 2018 schrieb Matus UHLAR - fantomas :
> On 18.09.18 14:43, Stefan Bauer wrote:
>>
>> I was expecting that the mail would bounce as the first MX refuses to
talk
>> TLS and i mapped that to a perm error. But postfix skips the one with
>> temporary/temp error and delivered to the second that offered TLS.
>
> I think your logic is flawed. the SSL handshake can fail because of many
> (temporary) reasons. If you just want to generate problems, you can try to
> make that error permanent.
>
> But the fact that secondary MX does allow TLS should mean that you were
able
> to pass the message to recipient server via TLS, so what's the point of
> generating permanent error in this case? This is exactly what backup MX
> servers are for...
>
>> Am Di., 18. Sep. 2018 um 14:36 Uhr schrieb Wietse Venema <
>> wie...@porcupine.org>:
>>
>>> Stefan Bauer:
>>> > Hi,
>>> >
>>> > i noticed the following today. Is this part of the standard?
>>>
>>> There is no standard that requires TLS for MTA-to-MTA deliveries.
>>>
>>> > For recipient domain:
>>> >
>>> > MX 5 mx1.recipient.com - does not support TLS and refused delivery
with
>>> > temp error
>>> > MX 10 mx2.recipient.com - does support TLS and took the mail
>>> >
>>> > Sep 18 10:36:29 B245080E75: TLS is required, but was not offered by
host
>>> > mx1.recipient.com[1.2.3.4]
>>> > Sep 18 10:36:29 Untrusted TLS connection established to
>>> > mx2.recipient.com[5.4.3.2]:25:
>>> > TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)
>>> >
>>> > smtp_delivery_status_filter was in place for above temp error, but it
was
>>> > not mapped to permanent error (which makes sense to me.
>>>
>>> What is the problem?
>
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