Hai Matus, 
Thank you for the reply, most apriciated. 

No, but its a "government" server, so i need to be very sure..   ;-) 
Thanks, i was looking in the wrong rfc. 


Best regards, 

Louis
 

> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: uh...@fantomas.sk 
> [mailto:owner-postfix-us...@postfix.org] Namens Matus UHLAR - fantomas
> Verzonden: dinsdag 13 maart 2018 14:05
> Aan: postfix-users@postfix.org
> Onderwerp: Re: question about envelop from.
> 
> On 13.03.18 13:54, L.P.H. van Belle wrote:
> >Im reading through rfc's but the following is still not clear for me.
> > 
> >E-mail is rejected base on the envelop-from adres from a 
> mail-daemon with postfix + postfix-policyd-spf
> > 
> >I saw the following in the postfix logs.
> >Feb  7 00:00:16 hostname postfix/smtpd[31726]: Untrusted TLS 
> connection established from smtp1.xxxxxxxx.nl[x.xx.xxx.xx]: 
> TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)
> >Feb  7 00:00:16 hostname postfix/policy-spf[31766]: Policy 
> action=PREPEND Received-SPF: none (apmcsqa01.poort: No 
> applicable sender policy available) 
> receiver=hostname.domain.nl; identity=mailfrom; 
> envelope-from="MAILER-DAEMON@apmcsqa01.poort"; 
> helo=smtp1.xxxxxxxx.nl; client-ip=x.xx.xxx.xx]
> >Feb  7 00:00:16 hostname postfix/smtpd[31726]: NOQUEUE: 
> reject: RCPT from smtp1.xxxxxxxx.nl[x.xx.xxx.xx]]: 450 4.1.8 
> <MAILER-DAEMON@apmcsqa01.poort>: Sender address rejected: 
> Domain not found; from=<MAILER-DAEMON@apmcsqa01.poort>
> > 
> >about this:
> >envelope-from="MAILER-DAEMON@apmcsqa01.poort"
> 
> who and why configured non-existing domain name there?
> 
> >Im looking for the correct rfc where its described that the 
> part @apmcsqa01.poort  should be @thesendingdomain.tld
> 
> RFC 5321, section 2.3.5.  Domain Names:
> 
>     Only resolvable, fully-qualified domain names (FQDNs) are 
> permitted
>     when domain names are used in SMTP.
> 
> >where thesendingdomain.tld is also a resolvable domain, 
> because not it does
> > not make sence because the now mailer-daemon wil never be 
> accepted because
> > its non resolveable
> 
> correct. that is the expected behaviour.
> do you expect someone to accept mail from non-existing 
> (invalid) addresses?
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