On 1/22/2018 8:36 PM, J Doe wrote:
>>> smtpd_helo_required = yes
>>> smtpd_helo_restrictions = permit_mynetworks,
>>>    reject_unauth_pipelining,
>>>        reject_invalid_helo_hostname,
>>>    reject_non_fqdn_helo_hostname,
>>>    check_helo_access hash:/etc/postfix/helo_acl,
>>>    reject_unknown_helo_hostname,
>>>    permit
>>
>> reject_unknown_helo_hostname is likely to reject legit mail.  Use
>> with caution.
> 
> Ok, although I checked man 5 postconf again for the definition:
> 
> “Reject the request when the HELO or EHLO hostname has no DNS A or MX record.”
> 
> Is there ever a case where a legitimate mail sender would not have either an 
> A (and I assume if it is an IPv6 sender an AAAA record), or a MX record ?

Yes, it's not terribly unusual for a legit HELO hostname to not resolve.

> 
> The other way I had looked at it was that since the SMTP error code for this 
> is 4xx, if it does reject a legitimate sender the sender would queue the 
> message and try again.  
... retry again and again for days and days.  Set the error codes to
5xx after a suitable testing period.


> I would assume that not having A/AAAA or MX would be transient for a 
> legitimate sender.

postfix will always use a 4xx code for a transient DNS error.

The HELO hostname is treated differently from the client hostname
and the sender email domain.

It's not unusual for the HELO hostname to be non-resolvable, AND
having a non-resolvable HELO hostname isn't a particularly strong
spam indicator.

Strong spam indicators for the HELO are
(note: this is for mail coming from the internet. Authenticated
submission mail or legit mail from devices on your network might
break any of these)
- a dynamic hostname (eg. 89-73-46-234.dynamic.chello.pl, which
resolves just fine)
- my own hostname or localhost (old spammer trick still in use)
- a bare IP address nn.nn.nn.nn  (disallowed by RFC)
- an ip literal eg. [nn.nn.nn.nn] (allowed by RFC; but IME always spam)



  -- Noel Jones

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