On Fri, Jul 07, 2017 at 10:40:47AM -0700, robg...@nospammail.net wrote: > I am starting to setup a Postfix server for our office. > > I'm looking at TLS policy. > > Reading old posts on the Postfix mailing lists there's lots of > comments that REQUIRING tls should never be done on an public > internet-facing server. > > But those comments are from 5-7 yrs ago. > > Is that still the case? > > On a friend's server we just checked 3 months of logs. IIUC > there's been no non-TLS connections at all in that time:
I use a warn_if_reject reject_plaintext_session restriction at end-of-DATA, so I have some numbers which might not be relevant to anyone else, but there are two main classes of plaintext mail arriving at my site: 1. Legitimate (solicited & confirmed) marketing mail 2. Free software project mailing lists (not this one) Your numbers (and classes) would vary if you tinker with TLS settings such that you won't accept "weak" ciphers. (Is a weak cipher weaker than plaintext?) My cipher settings are all Postfix defaults. > Second, if there are actually no non-encrypted connections, is > it time finally to simply require it? I won't. It's not like TLS in SMTP is going to make a huge difference for privacy. I suppose big mail services like gmail are scanning mail content for their own use, and quite likely are allowing national governments to do the same. TLS addresses a single, relatively minor security concern, of protection of data in transit. Yes, that is a good thing, but remember: you're also trusting the administrators of the other endpoint. If you really want to be a privacy advocate, start using GnuPG for end-to-end email encryption. -- http://rob0.nodns4.us/ Offlist GMX mail is seen only if "/dev/rob0" is in the Subject: