On Sun, 12 Feb 2017 21:26:55 +0000
Viktor Dukhovni <postfix-us...@dukhovni.org> wrote:

> > host -t txt _dmarc.artifact-software.com
> > "v=DMARC1; pct=100; p=quarantine; adkim=r; aspf=r"
> > 
> > And as this mail is sent by cloud9, opendmarc does what it is
> > supposed to do.
> 
> Say no to DMARC.  Don't make the mistake of outsourcing your inbound
> email policy to random strangers who either don't understand all
> the ways in which DMARC is flawed, or don't care about collateral
> damage.

Ok, but it is the inbound email policy of only /their/ domain. Like SPF,
it's the responsability of the owner of the domain, not the
responsability of the receiver. If someone fscks up the settings of
his/her domain, it's not my responsibility. If someone doesn't publish
glue records in DNS or uses a DNS servers that give different responses,
it's not my problem.

> There are good reasons why RFC7489 is an "informational" rather
> than a "standards track" RFC.

Well Viktor, I'm eager to know these reasons :) For the moment I do not
see any harm in applying DMARC, but I'd like to hear your objections.

> While DMARC may reduce Yahoo's abuse
> desk costs, we don't have to play along.  Though DMARC may reject
> some forged Yahoo email, there's still plenty of 419 email from
> the real Yahoo.

DMARC is *not* the ultimate solution to spam. Spammers know how it works
and they will do their utmost to bypass filtering when they deliver
their bullshit. I just don't want other people to misuse the domains I
own.

> DO NOT publish DMARC policy.

That's the choice of the owner of the domain. And his/her
responsability.

> DO NOT check DMARC policy, except
> perhaps as a small bump in a composite spam score.

That's the choice of the receiver. And his/her resposabilty.

If I ask you to reject mail from my domain dos.nl which is not
signed and coming from an ip that is not in my -all SPF record, who am
I to tell you not to accept the mail anyway? If you want it, go ahead,
you're welcome! :)

R.

-- 
richard lucassen
http://contact.xaq.nl/

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