Thanks Wietse,

I'm still a little confused here. Based on the logs (and what I expect) the
server 202.137.240.16 which is the destination server for this mail has
rejected the recipient with a permanent error.

*host 202.137.240.16[202.137.240.16] said: 550 5.1.1
<nosuchem...@randominsanity.net.nz <nosuchem...@randominsanity.net.nz>>:
Recipient address rejected: User unknown in local recipient table (in reply
to RCPT TO command)*

To me this seems like the downstream server has sent a permanent rejection
of the recipient however my server is still returning a tempfail to the
source. This is why I expected it to trigger the
unverified_recipient_reject_code.

Are you able to explain a little more what the tempfail in that probe is so
I can better interpret the logs as my reading of it would be a successful
probe returning a reject result?

Cheers,
Daniel


On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 3:07 AM, Wietse Venema <wie...@porcupine.org> wrote:

> Daniel Hopkirk - RandomInsanity:
> > Hi Guys,
> >
> > Thanks Wietse for your comments, you confirmed what I assumed but
> couldn't
> > afford to assume!
> >
> > And thanks for your thoughts Bennett. I'm happy to say that the key
> points
> > you mentioned are ones we have already given thought as part of our
> general
> > planning.
> >
> > I've been progressing following your comments and have made good progress
> > but have hit a road block that I'm hoping someone can spot what I'm
> missing.
> >
> > The short issue is that although we're using
> 'reject_unverified_recipients'
> > and have set 'unverified_recipient_reject_code = 550', mail is still
> > continuing and going through greylisting (returning 450 to client) and
> not
> > until greylisting is over is it rejecting the email back to the client.
> The
>
> Your 550 reply code applies IF AND ONLY IF the downstream server
> rejects the recipient.
>
> In your case, the answer is determined by the setting of
> unverified_recipient_tempfail_action.
>
>    reject_unverified_recipient
>           Reject the request when mail to the RCPT TO address is known  to
>           bounce,  or when the recipient address destination is not reach-
>           able.  Address verification information is managed by  the  ver-
>           ify(8)  server;  see  the  ADDRESS_VERIFICATION_README  file for
>           details.
>           The  unverified_recipient_reject_code  parameter  specifies  the
>           numerical  response  code  when  an  address  is known to bounce
>           (default: 450, change into 550 when you are confident that it is
>           safe to do so).
>           The   unverified_recipient_defer_code  parameter  specifies  the
>           numerical response code when an address probe failed  due  to  a
>           temporary problem (default: 450).
>       >>> The unverified_recipient_tempfail_action parameter specifies the
>       >>> action after address probe failure due to  a  temporary  problem
>       >>> (default: defer_if_permit).
>           This feature is available in Postfix 2.1 and later.
>
> Ignoring the confusing text (and corresponding implementation) the
> up-shot is that either your address probe is still in flight, the
> down-stream server is unavailable, or the down-stream server replied
> with 4XX.
>
> In all those cases you don't want to 5XX reject the recipient
> because the address may still be good.  With defer_if_permit, Postfix
> looks for other reasons to hard reject the recipient, hence the
> greylist and other checks.
>
>         Wietse
>

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