> Am 07.01.2015 um 00:18 schrieb Viktor Dukhovni <postfix-us...@dukhovni.org>:
> 
>> On Tue, Jan 06, 2015 at 11:36:08PM +0100, Jean Bruenn wrote:
>> 
>> I'd like to use DANE but since my registrar has no support for DNSSEC
>> stuff yet (they're working on that) I am using DLV (dlv.isc.org) for now.
>> Now I'd like to use that with Postfix and for that to work I assume that
>> other sites needs to use DLV verification as well.
> 
> Correct.  DANE support is a client-side only matter. SMTP clients
> sending email to your domain will only make use of DANE if they
> support DLV.  My email server, for example, specifically does not
> support the ISC DLV.  With the root zone and most TLDs signed, I
> don't think it makes sense to use it anymore.
> 

What happens if I send an email to your Mailserver if there is
no DS-record for my domain in eu (which is why I use dlv - I added 
the dnskey of a .eu testdomain there) the same as explained
below (no mail loss)?

>> What happens if they don't?
> 
> They'll send email to your domain without DNSSEC or DANE.
> 
>> Verification will fail and the mail is rejected?
> 
> Of course not.  All that happens is that email transmission to your
> domain is more vulnerable to MiTM attacks.
> 
>> Basically I want to know if it is safe to implement DANE with
>> DLV.
> 
> Safe, but largely pointless.  By the time enough domains enable
> client-side DANE support for this to matter to you, the ISC DLV
> may be substantially obsolete.

I see. If I understand correctly it does help in cases like mine if
the registrar for example has no dnssec support yet?

Jean

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