Am 10.11.2014 um 16:23 schrieb Viktor Dukhovni:
> On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 09:28:17AM +0100, Lars Heide wrote:
>
>>> Was there a prior connection shortly before that where the handshake
>>> failed for some other reason?
>>
>> No, there is no prior connection according to our logs, which is
>> strange, now that you mention it.
>
> A possible cause is that the initial connection failed to complete,
> and that's why the fallback might have taken place.  Was the problem
> consistent or a "one-of"?

We don't get much mail from that source only 2 mails in the last month,
both with the same error. I could find no other occasions.

>
>>>> They use Kerio Connect 8.4.0 RC 1. According to Wikipedia (couldn't find
>>>> any version information on their website):
>>>>
>>>> 8.3.4 OpenSSL library upgraded to version 1.0.1j to prevent MITM
>>>> protocol downgrade to insecure SSL 3.0 protocol
>>>
>>> Perhaps 1.0.1j sometimes sends SCSV when it should not, I'll look
>>> into it when I get a chance.
>
> I'll may yet look into this later, but it should be very difficult
> for that kind of bug to happen, the SCSV is supposed to be turned
> on under application control, OpenSSL cannot unilaterally determine
> that some prior connection failed and downgraded settings are in
> use as a result.  Since this should not ever be turned autonomously
> by the library, it should never happen "by accident".

Possibly a buggy implementation on the server side then. It's still a
"RC 1" if I read the banner correctly.


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