A. Schulze wrote:
> 
> shmick:
> 
>> CONNECTED(00000003)
>> 139821090178704:error:14077410:SSL routines:SSL23_GET_SERVER_HELLO:sslv3
>> alert handshake failure:s23_clnt.c:762:
> medusa.blackops.org smtp *SERVER* just doesn't support the selected cipher.
> 
>> does that mean it cannot connect *to* me because it doesn't have any EC
>> ciphers (openssl from 0.9.8 to 1.0.0 i believe?) which are required
>> because of an EC ssl cert ?
> yes, you may want to also provide a RSA certificate

im so glad you suggested that
i will visit start.com
thanks, it never occurred to me to provide a 2nd cert

> 
>> why doesn't mail then get delivered in the clear ?
> the MTA @medusa.blackops.org ( sendmail as far as I know ) just do not
> fall back to plaintext.
> 
> I will send a ping to the operator of medusa.blackops.org off-list.
> But I don't expect him to implement ECDSA because he's very busy...

thats fine i get it - he's the dkim guy
im just more concerned about not receiving mail in general but i think a
2nd cert will help immensely

> 
> Andreas
> 
> 

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