On 06/08/2014 08:53 AM, LuKreme wrote: > >> the stupidity is trying 25 first > > That is still what most servers support or even require.
I think the vast number of ESPs will accept submission on port 587. Only supporting port 25 for submission nowadays is a disaster considering the number of ISPs that block outbound port 25. Many will still offer 25 for backwards compatibility, but even those will use a separate IP address in the vast majority of cases so as not to mix submission with MX traffic. Peter