Hi,

I experienced funny stories with Symantec, on Windows, resulting in a
discount for another year for my employer and a pat on the back for me.

Some suggestions:
- try to identify the tmp folder where Symantec keeps the message while is
filtered and see how long is kept there.
- for test purpose: try to set a time limit in Symantec (probably you don't
have such option). If you do, set a limit of 60 seconds and see if you get
any change.
- You may find some improvements in disabling some features. Limit the
scanning to executables, scripts, archives and documents,  instead of
scanning all files (pictures, video, audio).
- Activate/deactivate DLP and other modules to see if something changes.
- You may have depth level scanning too. 

Regards,
Marius.

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-postfix-us...@postfix.org
[mailto:owner-postfix-us...@postfix.org] On Behalf Of Xie, Wei
Sent: Monday, April 28, 2014 8:01 PM
To: Wietse Venema
Cc: 'postfix-users@postfix.org'
Subject: RE: RHEL 5.10 vs 6.4 performancs difference

>>> RHEL 5.10 is old. Why are you evaluating it for production?

It is very funny to talk about this story. We are running Symantec DLP
application 12.0.1 + Postfix 2.6.6 on RHEL 6.4 for outbound emails, which
are delivered to FOPE (one windows antispam system -
relay=mail.us.messaging.microsoft.com). Sometimes Symantec DLP application
consecutively restart its own processes due to unknown reasons. We have
tried all solutions from Symantec recommends, but the problem is still not
fixed. Finally Symantec tells us their software running on RHEL 6.x is not
supported. They only support us only if we downgrade to RHEL 5.8. After we
test everything is functional on test/dev servers, we choose one production
to downgrade to RHEL 5.10 and do real production trial. But performance is
not good. The time for outbound emails in queue is too long. We need address
the root cause. That's why I sent this email to ask for help.

>>> Are you sure you did not swap the 5.10 and 6.4 release names?

I am sure I did not swap the 5.10 and 6.4 release names.  The Postfix-2.3.3
is bundled with RHEL 5.10 whereas Postfix-2.6.6 is bundled with RHEL 6.4.
To turn on TLS on Postfix-2.3.3, I see some errors on the log
/var/log/maillog. To get approval from Symantec that they support all
releases of Postfix on RHEL 5.10, we upgrade Postfix-2.3.3 to Postfix-2.6.6,
which is same as on our other RHEL 6.4 servers.

Thanks,

Carl



-----Original Message-----
From: Wietse Venema [mailto:wie...@porcupine.org] 
Sent: Monday, April 28, 2014 11:50 AM
To: Xie, Wei
Cc: 'postfix-users@postfix.org'
Subject: RHEL 5.10 vs 6.4 performancs difference

Xie, Wei:
> Need help!!!
> 
> We are using Postfix-2.6.6 with TLS running on RHEL 5.10 for production
trial.
> 
> From the email delivery log, we see delay 967 seconds.
> 
> Apr 28 11:03:18 cio-krc-pf03 postfix/smtp[5015]: 9934181190: 
> to=<turek...@buckeyemail.osu.edu>, 
> relay=mail.us.messaging.microsoft.com[216.32.181.178]:25, delay=967, 
> delays=0/964/1.5/1.3, dsn=2.6.0, status=sent (250 2.6.0 
> <27520027.166481398696426625.javamail.erequest.do.not.re...@osu.edu> 
> [InternalId=9787221] Queued mail for delivery)

This needs 1.5 seconds for the TCP, SMTP and TLS handhake, and 1.3 seconds
to deliver the message.

RHEL 5.10 is old. Why are you evaluating it for production?

> We have other servers running Postfix-2.6.6 with TLS on RHEL 6.4 and 
> email delivery is very fast below. The parameters for TLS and other 
> default parameters are same as above Postfix running on RHEL
> 5.10 server.
> 
> Apr 28 10:58:11 cio-krc-pf07 postfix/smtp[16802]: 64DA2500066:
to=<neff....@buckeyemail.osu.edu>,
relay=mail.us.messaging.microsoft.com[216.32.180.22]:25, delay=0.72,
delays=0/0/0.28/0.44, dsn=2.6.0, status=sent (250 2.6.0
<fafe453d676b3e3e740bc382f3bfc...@careers-osu-csm.symplicity.com>
[InternalId=19618080] Queued mail for delivery).

This needs 0.28 for the TCP, SMTP and TLS handhake, and it also uses less
time to deliver mail. With less time needed to do the job, less mail piles
up in the Postfix queue.

If the same Postfix version and configuration different results on different
OS distributions, then it is a good bet that the OS distribution is causing
the difference, and that this requires Viktor to look into what may be
causing this.

Are you sure you did not swap the 5.10 and 6.4 release names?

        Wietse



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