Am 04.03.2014 09:49, schrieb Robert Schetterer:

> an acceptable workaround, your "man made problem" was no suprise.

Nobody said it's a surprise.

And: It's not a spurprise and not a "man made problem", but an
interesting new use-case where we can provide additional mailadresses
with TLS-encrypted SMTP (next hop)-transfer to/from the recipient's
provider.

The forced use of TLS-encryption can by triggered by the user who knows,
what he's doing. But the user need's a fast DSN if the enforced TLS is
not possible.

> And however you have tls working ,you can only promise secure send next
> best mx hop, you will never have have full control of the whole "mail
> pass chain". 

Thanks for the explanation, but I'm not stupid AND I know Postfix VERY
well. I know that.

> So promise users "secure mail" is always problematic, you
> can only serve mail as secure as possible, everything else is just
> marketing speak.

I agree. That's why we do NOT promise anything else. Otherwise I'd be
stupid.

Peer



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