On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 07:54:38AM +0200, Ulrich Zehl wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 03:45:35PM -0500, /dev/rob0 wrote:
> > They don't have "hairpin NAT" set up, whereby if I try to
> > connect to this NATed IP address it would go to the router
> > and come back to me. I'm fine with that, actually; while
> > that would solve the instant problem, it could be bad in
> > other ways.
> 
> May I ask what badness you expect from that?

You're right, probably none. People who do "hairpin NAT" wrong (not 
restricting by interface) can create open relays when the router IP 
address is in $mynetworks. Even if not an open relay, it destroys 
your strongest antispam tools by obscuring the client IP address.

In this case the NAT should only be done for packets from the MSA 
instance to the MX instance, so the usual problem of the wrong IP 
address being logged would not matter: the router IP *is* the MSA.

> My first thought was to suggest setting up the NAT rules yourself 
> (using iptables or whatever your OS offers). If they're restricted 
> to match only TCP to <externalIP>:25, I don't see much potential 
> for problems (but of course, I may be missing something).

My ultimate solution was as per the discussion with Wietse: an 
alternate DNS view of the MX instance hostname. I accomplished it 
using dnsmasq and an entry in /etc/hosts, quick and easy. Any 
additional names which might be used for this address must be added 
to hosts as well.

I should close up this thread by saying that in this case all my 
puzzling was pointless. :) This site uses an external filtering 
service as relayhost. MSA sends everything to relayhost, the 
relayhost delivers.

Still, it's not entirely useless, because I learned something, and 
these folks might not always want to be at the mercy of their 
filtering service provider. If/when they decide to switch to send
direct-to-MX, it already works.
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