Hi,

I have a mail receiving server setup , I use Postfix as my mail receiving 
server and use the 'sid-milter' (http://sourceforge.net/projects/sid-milter/) 
as provided by postfix add-on Software(http://www.postfix.org/addon.html) page 
to verify incoming mail's sender-ID and SPF.

Here I am getting 'PermError' when an email is sent from 'outlook.com' to my 
mail server;

As per the RFC 4408(http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc4408.txt),

" 2.5.7.  PermError

   A "PermError" result means that the domain's published records could
   not be correctly interpreted.  This signals an error condition that
   requires manual intervention to be resolved, as opposed to the
   TempError result.  Be aware that if the domain owner uses macros
   (Section 8), it is possible that this result is due to the checked
   identities having an unexpected format."


Does this mean that the 'outlook.com' has wrong sender-ID/SPF records or is it 
that the 'sid-milter' is unable to correctly interpret the 'outlook.com' 
sender-ID/SPF records?

What remedies can I take for correcting the cases I have mentioned above? 


, Following are the logs :

"Jun 14 07:54:01 XXXXXXXX sid-filter[29549]: WARNING: sendmail symbol 'i' not 
available

Jun 14 07:54:01 XXXXXXXX sid-filter[29549]: <unknown-msgid> check_host 
ip=65.54.190.90 domain=outlook.com sender=test01...@outlook.com

Jun 14 07:54:01 XXXXXXXX sid-filter[29549]: <unknown-msgid> >>> check-host 
ip=65.54.190.90 domain=outlook.com sender=test01...@outlook.com

Jun 14 07:54:01 XXXXXXXX sid-filter[29549]: <unknown-msgid>   < marid 
outlook.com?

Jun 14 07:54:01 XXXXXXXX sid-filter[29549]: <unknown-msgid>   > v=spf1 
include:spf-a.outlook.com include:spf-b.outlook.com ip4:157.55.9.128/25 
include:spfa.bigfish.com include:spfb.bigfish.com include:spfc.bigfish.com 
include:spf-a.hotmail.com include:_spf-ssg-b.microsoft.com 
include:_spf-ssg-c.microsoft.com ~all

Jun 14 07:54:01 XXXXXXXX sid-filter[29549]: <unknown-msgid>    >>> check-host 
ip=65.54.190.90 domain=spf-a.outlook.com sender=test01...@outlook.com

Jun 14 07:54:01 XXXXXXXX sid-filter[29549]: <unknown-msgid>      < marid 
spf-a.outlook.com?

Jun 14 07:54:01 XXXXXXXX sid-filter[29549]: <unknown-msgid>      > v=spf1 
ip4:157.56.232.0/21 ip4:157.56.240.0/20 ip4:207.46.198.0/25 ip4:207.46.4.128/25 
ip4:157.56.24.0/25 ip4:157.55.157.128/25 ip4:157.55.61.0/24 ip4:157.55.49.0/25 
ip4:65.55.174.0/25 ip4:65.55.126.0/25 ip4:65.55.113.64/26 ip4:65.55.94.0/25 -all

Jun 14 07:54:01 XXXXXXXX sid-filter[29549]: <unknown-msgid>    <<< check_host 
ip=65.54.190.90 domain=spf-a.outlook.com sender=test01...@outlook.com: Fail 
NotPermitted 

Jun 14 07:54:01 XXXXXXXX sid-filter[29549]: <unknown-msgid>    >>> check-host 
ip=65.54.190.90 domain=spf-b.outlook.com sender=test01...@outlook.com

Jun 14 07:54:01 XXXXXXXX sid-filter[29549]: <unknown-msgid>      < marid 
spf-b.outlook.com?

Jun 14 07:54:01 XXXXXXXX sid-filter[29549]: <unknown-msgid>      > v=spf1 
ip4:65.55.78.128/25 ip4:111.221.112.0/21 ip4:207.46.58.128/25 
ip4:111.221.69.128/25 ip4:111.221.66.0/25 ip4:111.221.23.128/25 
ip4:70.37.151.128/25 ip4:157.56.248.0/21 ip4:213.199.177.0/26 
ip4:157.55.225.0/25 ip4:157.55.11.0/25 -all

Jun 14 07:54:01 XXXXXXXX sid-filter[29549]: <unknown-msgid>    <<< check_host 
ip=65.54.190.90 domain=spf-b.outlook.com sender=test01...@outlook.com: Fail 
NotPermitted 

Jun 14 07:54:01 XXXXXXXX sid-filter[29549]: <unknown-msgid>    >>> check-host 
ip=65.54.190.90 domain=spfa.bigfish.com sender=test01...@outlook.com

Jun 14 07:54:01 XXXXXXXX sid-filter[29549]: <unknown-msgid>      < marid 
spfa.bigfish.com?

Jun 14 07:54:01 XXXXXXXX sid-filter[29549]: <unknown-msgid>      > v=spf1 
ip4:157.55.116.128/26 ip4:157.55.133.0/24 ip4:157.55.158.0/23 
ip4:157.55.234.0/24 ip4:157.56.112.0/24 ip4:157.56.116.0/25 ip4:157.56.120.0/25 
ip4:207.46.100.0/24 ip4:207.46.108.0/25 ip4:207.46.163.0/24 
ip4:134.170.140.0/24 ip4:157.56.110.0/23 -all

Jun 14 07:54:01 XXXXXXXX sid-filter[29549]: <unknown-msgid>    <<< check_host 
ip=65.54.190.90 domain=spfa.bigfish.com sender=test01...@outlook.com: Fail 
NotPermitted 

Jun 14 07:54:01 XXXXXXXX sid-filter[29549]: <unknown-msgid>    >>> check-host 
ip=65.54.190.90 domain=spfb.bigfish.com sender=test01...@outlook.com

Jun 14 07:54:01 XXXXXXXX sid-filter[29549]: <unknown-msgid>      < marid 
spfb.bigfish.com?

Jun 14 07:54:01 XXXXXXXX sid-filter[29549]: <unknown-msgid>      > v=spf1 
ip4:207.46.51.64/26 ip4:213.199.154.0/24 ip4:213.199.180.128/26 
ip4:216.32.180.0/23 ip4:64.4.22.64/26 ip4:65.55.83.128/27 ip4:65.55.169.0/24 
ip4:65.55.88.0/24 ip4:94.245.120.64/26 ip4:131.107.0.0/16 ip4:157.56.73.0/24 
ip4:134.170.132.0/24 -all

Jun 14 07:54:01 XXXXXXXX sid-filter[29549]: <unknown-msgid>    <<< check_host 
ip=65.54.190.90 domain=spfb.bigfish.com sender=test01...@outlook.com: Fail 
NotPermitted 

Jun 14 07:54:01 XXXXXXXX sid-filter[29549]: <unknown-msgid>    >>> check-host 
ip=65.54.190.90 domain=spfc.bigfish.com sender=test01...@outlook.com

Jun 14 07:54:01 XXXXXXXX sid-filter[29549]: <unknown-msgid>      < marid 
spfc.bigfish.com?

Jun 14 07:54:01 XXXXXXXX sid-filter[29549]: <unknown-msgid>      > v=spf1 
ip4:207.46.101.128/26 ip6:2a01:111:f400:7c00::/54 ip6:2a01:111:f400:fc00::/54 
ip4:157.56.87.192/26 ip4:157.55.40.32/27 ip4:157.56.123.0/27 ip4:157.56.91.0/27 
ip4:157.55.206.0/24 ip4:157.55.207.0/24 ip4:157.56.206.0/23 ip4:157.56.208.0/22 
-all

Jun 14 07:54:01 XXXXXXXX sid-filter[29549]: <unknown-msgid> *** ip6: syntax 
error in IP address "65.54.190.90" ***

Jun 14 07:54:01 XXXXXXXX sid-filter[29549]: <unknown-msgid>    <<< check_host 
ip=65.54.190.90 domain=spfc.bigfish.com sender=test01...@outlook.com: PermError

Jun 14 07:54:01 XXXXXXXX sid-filter[29549]: <unknown-msgid> *** "include" 
failed ***

Jun 14 07:54:01 XXXXXXXX sid-filter[29549]: <unknown-msgid> <<< check_host 
ip=65.54.190.90 domain=outlook.com sender=test01...@outlook.com: PermError

Jun 14 07:54:01 XXXXXXXX sid-filter[29549]: <unknown-msgid>   < no more requests

Jun 14 07:54:01 XXXXXXXX sid-filter[29549]: <unknown-msgid> check_host: 
PermError

Jun 14 07:54:01 XXXXXXXX sid-filter[29549]: <unknown-msgid> check_host 
ip=65.54.190.90 domain=outlook.com sender=test01...@outlook.com

Jun 14 07:54:01 XXXXXXXX sid-filter[29549]: <unknown-msgid> >>> check-host 
ip=65.54.190.90 domain=outlook.com sender=test01...@outlook.com

Jun 14 07:54:01 XXXXXXXX sid-filter[29549]: <unknown-msgid>   < marid 
outlook.com?

Jun 14 07:54:01 XXXXXXXX sid-filter[29549]: <unknown-msgid>   > v=spf1 
include:spf-a.outlook.com include:spf-b.outlook.com ip4:157.55.9.128/25 
include:spfa.bigfish.com include:spfb.bigfish.com include:spfc.bigfish.com 
include:spf-a.hotmail.com include:_spf-ssg-b.microsoft.com 
include:_spf-ssg-c.microsoft.com ~all

Jun 14 07:54:01 XXXXXXXX sid-filter[29549]: <unknown-msgid>    >>> check-host 
ip=65.54.190.90 domain=spf-a.outlook.com sender=test01...@outlook.com

Jun 14 07:54:01 XXXXXXXX sid-filter[29549]: <unknown-msgid>      < marid 
spf-a.outlook.com?

Jun 14 07:54:01 XXXXXXXX sid-filter[29549]: <unknown-msgid>      > v=spf1 
ip4:157.56.232.0/21 ip4:157.56.240.0/20 ip4:207.46.198.0/25 ip4:207.46.4.128/25 
ip4:157.56.24.0/25 ip4:157.55.157.128/25 ip4:157.55.61.0/24 ip4:157.55.49.0/25 
ip4:65.55.174.0/25 ip4:65.55.126.0/25 ip4:65.55.113.64/26 ip4:65.55.94.0/25 -all

Jun 14 07:54:01 XXXXXXXX sid-filter[29549]: <unknown-msgid>    <<< check_host 
ip=65.54.190.90 domain=spf-a.outlook.com sender=test01...@outlook.com: Fail 
NotPermitted 

Jun 14 07:54:01 XXXXXXXX sid-filter[29549]: <unknown-msgid>    >>> check-host 
ip=65.54.190.90 domain=spf-b.outlook.com sender=test01...@outlook.com

Jun 14 07:54:01 XXXXXXXX sid-filter[29549]: <unknown-msgid>      < marid 
spf-b.outlook.com?

Jun 14 07:54:01 XXXXXXXX sid-filter[29549]: <unknown-msgid>      > v=spf1 
ip4:65.55.78.128/25 ip4:111.221.112.0/21 ip4:207.46.58.128/25 
ip4:111.221.69.128/25 ip4:111.221.66.0/25 ip4:111.221.23.128/25 
ip4:70.37.151.128/25 ip4:157.56.248.0/21 ip4:213.199.177.0/26 
ip4:157.55.225.0/25 ip4:157.55.11.0/25 -all

Jun 14 07:54:01 XXXXXXXX sid-filter[29549]: <unknown-msgid>    <<< check_host 
ip=65.54.190.90 domain=spf-b.outlook.com sender=test01...@outlook.com: Fail 
NotPermitted 

Jun 14 07:54:01 XXXXXXXX sid-filter[29549]: <unknown-msgid>    >>> check-host 
ip=65.54.190.90 domain=spfa.bigfish.com sender=test01...@outlook.com

Jun 14 07:54:01 XXXXXXXX sid-filter[29549]: <unknown-msgid>      < marid 
spfa.bigfish.com?

Jun 14 07:54:01 XXXXXXXX sid-filter[29549]: <unknown-msgid>      > v=spf1 
ip4:157.55.116.128/26 ip4:157.55.133.0/24 ip4:157.55.158.0/23 
ip4:157.55.234.0/24 ip4:157.56.112.0/24 ip4:157.56.116.0/25 ip4:157.56.120.0/25 
ip4:207.46.100.0/24 ip4:207.46.108.0/25 ip4:207.46.163.0/24 
ip4:134.170.140.0/24 ip4:157.56.110.0/23 -all

Jun 14 07:54:01 XXXXXXXX sid-filter[29549]: <unknown-msgid>    <<< check_host 
ip=65.54.190.90 domain=spfa.bigfish.com sender=test01...@outlook.com: Fail 
NotPermitted 

Jun 14 07:54:01 XXXXXXXX sid-filter[29549]: <unknown-msgid>    >>> check-host 
ip=65.54.190.90 domain=spfb.bigfish.com sender=test01...@outlook.com

Jun 14 07:54:01 XXXXXXXX sid-filter[29549]: <unknown-msgid>      < marid 
spfb.bigfish.com?

Jun 14 07:54:01 XXXXXXXX sid-filter[29549]: <unknown-msgid>      > v=spf1 
ip4:207.46.51.64/26 ip4:213.199.154.0/24 ip4:213.199.180.128/26 
ip4:216.32.180.0/23 ip4:64.4.22.64/26 ip4:65.55.83.128/27 ip4:65.55.169.0/24 
ip4:65.55.88.0/24 ip4:94.245.120.64/26 ip4:131.107.0.0/16 ip4:157.56.73.0/24 
ip4:134.170.132.0/24 -all

Jun 14 07:54:01 XXXXXXXX sid-filter[29549]: <unknown-msgid>    <<< check_host 
ip=65.54.190.90 domain=spfb.bigfish.com sender=test01...@outlook.com: Fail 
NotPermitted 

Jun 14 07:54:01 XXXXXXXX sid-filter[29549]: <unknown-msgid>    >>> check-host 
ip=65.54.190.90 domain=spfc.bigfish.com sender=test01...@outlook.com

Jun 14 07:54:01 XXXXXXXX sid-filter[29549]: <unknown-msgid>      < marid 
spfc.bigfish.com?

Jun 14 07:54:01 XXXXXXXX sid-filter[29549]: <unknown-msgid>      > v=spf1 
ip4:207.46.101.128/26 ip6:2a01:111:f400:7c00::/54 ip6:2a01:111:f400:fc00::/54 
ip4:157.56.87.192/26 ip4:157.55.40.32/27 ip4:157.56.123.0/27 ip4:157.56.91.0/27 
ip4:157.55.206.0/24 ip4:157.55.207.0/24 ip4:157.56.206.0/23 ip4:157.56.208.0/22 
-all

Jun 14 07:54:01 XXXXXXXX sid-filter[29549]: <unknown-msgid> *** ip6: syntax 
error in IP address "65.54.190.90" ***

Jun 14 07:54:01 XXXXXXXX sid-filter[29549]: <unknown-msgid>    <<< check_host 
ip=65.54.190.90 domain=spfc.bigfish.com sender=test01...@outlook.com: PermError

Jun 14 07:54:01 XXXXXXXX sid-filter[29549]: <unknown-msgid> *** "include" 
failed ***

Jun 14 07:54:01 XXXXXXXX sid-filter[29549]: <unknown-msgid> <<< check_host 
ip=65.54.190.90 domain=outlook.com sender=test01...@outlook.com: PermError

Jun 14 07:54:01 XXXXXXXX sid-filter[29549]: <unknown-msgid>   < no more requests

Jun 14 07:54:01 XXXXXXXX sid-filter[29549]: <unknown-msgid> check_host: 
PermError"





Thanks
Ashish

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