Hi Noel,

Thanks for your reply. I already have spamhous and clamav in my setup.
But, still mails are being passed through it.

I completely understand that it's a very legit way of sending mail.
It's done *everywhere*.

But, really want to restrict all this as ignorant people are getting
mails from email address like "ad...@domain.com" and they get fooled.
It passed through both RBL and clamav. The user's domain is also
"domain.com". I'm just trying to find a way to make these thing very
strict for a certain set of users.

If I could just *tag* these kind of mails (for ex, adding POSSIBLE
SPAM in subject etc), that would be awesome too. I'm trying to not
write a milter for this though.


On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 7:57 PM, Noel Jones <njo...@megan.vbhcs.org> wrote:
> On 5/7/2013 8:54 AM, Abhijeet Rastogi wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> So, I've a condition where people send mails to my domain with with
>> fake "From:" header in the body of mail (which Thunderbird or any MUA
>> shows while reading the mail).
>>
>> This is actually an authentic way of sending mail if the user that's
>> sending mail has proper authority over the email that's mentioned in
>> body part. (which is not the case here)
>
> Mismatched From: and envelope sender is not a reliable spam
> indicator.  Look at the headers of this message, look at just about
> every legit marketing message, look at every mail list you're signed
> up for, look at PayPal mail, look at mail from your bank.
>
>>
>> To make my point clear enough, the spammer is authenticating with a
>> certain mailfrom and then it adds a "From: " part in the body which
>> Thunderbird picks up while showing the mail. This way people can get
>> fooled that mail is actually coming from that user.
>
> Now you confuse the issue by mentioning authentication.
>
> If you have trouble with compromised local user accounts, use rate
> limits to detect and limit the damage. http://postfwd.org/
>
>>
>> What are some possible and standard ways of filtering/rejecting those
>> kinds of mails? It would a plus to have a "hash" kind of thing that'll
>> make sure what all possible "mailfrom" and "from" combinations are.
>>
>
> Use standard anti-spam controls to reject unwanted mail.
>
> The easy stuff, safe for (almost) everyone: reject_rbl_client
> zen.spamhaus.org, reject_unknown_reverse_client_hostname,
> http://www.hardwarefreak.com/fqrdns.pcre;
>
> More powerful, more flexible, more complicated:  amavisd-new with
> clamav, Sanesecurity antispam signatures, and SpamAssassin.
>
>
>
>   -- Noel Jones



-- 
Regards,
Abhijeet Rastogi (shadyabhi)
http://blog.abhijeetr.com

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