* Wietse Venema <postfix-users@postfix.org>:
> Patrick Ben Koetter:
> > Wietse et al.
> > 
> > With the arrival of postscreen, but also before I find myself repeatedly
> > changing the defaults for the 'submission' service in master.cf. I believe 
> > the
> > changes I apply are not rooted in my local mail policies, but of general
> > nature.
> > 
> > Now that submission has become more popular I'd like to discuss if the 
> > current
> > settings should be modified to work better with an MTA that runs different
> > policies for port 25 and 587, which I believe has become the standard use 
> > case
> > for 'a mailserver'.
> 
> Indeed. Of course, not every MTA needs to provide "port 587"
> submission service. Enabling an unused service by default would be
> undesirable as it may produce unexpected results.

Agreed.


> Different sites have different needs, and perhaps it is an idea to
> provide *multiple* submission service examples in master.cf, all
> commented out of course. The first could be the recommended one:
> not allowing plaintext sessions is good as a general rule. The
> second example could allow plaintext sessions (level = may) but
> allow plaintext passwords only over encrypted sessions.

I'll be on a train for quite some time today. That will give me time to work
out some examples.


> I would not recommend smtpd_delay_reject=no.  With that, the sysadmin
> has no clue about what mail is blocked.  Even postscreen tries to
> capture sender and recipient information.

You would not recommend it in general or not on 587? The latter would be my
recommendation:

- Do not delay on port 25 for MTA to MTA communication
- Delay on port 587 for MUA to MTA communication

p@rick

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