On 5 November 2011 08:21, David Southwell <ad...@vizion2000.net> wrote: > On Saturday 05 November 2011 05:13:22 Wietse Venema wrote: >> David Southwell: >> > Did you read the original posting and the reply from Kamil. He spotted >> > the primary cause. It was he who spotted the extra " " before >> > policyd-spf in master.cf which was in the part of the post you cut out. >> > >> > So you were right it was an error in the master.cf but noone else spotted >> > it before Kamil made his contribution. >> >> You could have spotted it days ago with lsof/netstat which would >> have told you immediately that postfix was not listening on the >> socket. >> >> Wietse > > Typical Wietse response. Everyone could see postfix was not listening but it
And Wietse was trying to get you to find out why - instead of making random changes. He asked you at least twice to run netstat - did you do it? It would have saved you 18 hours and at least 3 long mails if you had. Typically ungrateful response to Wietse's help is more like it. People come on here, expect it him not only to write it, but keep it secure and spot typgraphical errors in their own configs because they're too lazy to look (and that laziness is exemplified by a laziness to follow a simple diagnostic instruction). > took Kamil's careful scrutiny and knowledge to identify why - knowing why was > what led to the solution. Which you'd have had much much earlier without the hand-holding had you followed Wietse's first request to run netstat. > Diagnosis is valuable but without the ability to define the treatment the > diagnosis is merely a matter of record. Only valuable if you follow the steps you're asked to perform. Spoonfeeding and proof-reading your errors in your config files is not diagnosis. > Clearly postfix is need of an intelligent parser that will to pinpoint errors > such as this in master.cf and main.cf. That is because stupid computers are > better at parsing chores than human beings. Postfix has such a parser - which is why the documentation points out that lines should not start with a white-space. RTFM. Simon
