Thu, Jul 21, 2011 ve 01:31:29PM +0200, Robert Schetterer napsal:
> Am 21.07.2011 12:55, schrieb deb...@orthank.net:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > we are using couple of servers with postfix to send newsletter 
> > to clients. Sending is pretty fast but after a short time every
> > server is beign occupied with handling deferred mails.
> > 
> > I got idea that maybe it is possible to somehow handle deferred
> > mails on different machine. So primary servers will be bussy only
> > with sending mails where no problem occures and when something is
> > wrong and mail goes to deferred q, it will be forwarded to different
> > machine which take care about it.
> > 
> > I spent some time with googling and browsing documentation but I
> > didn't find much so far.
> > 
> > Thaks for any help. Maybe idea is completely wrong.
> > 
> 
> depending setup on what you need
> 
> how many emails do you send out ?

estimate is about 10.000 to couple of hundred thousands.

> to what kind of addresses ( gmail , gmx , big mailers etc )

I think about 70% will be on some local big providers

> is here urgent need that they reach in some defined time window?

yes. Its about 2 days

> do you have allready slow transports for big mailers

not yet but we are experimenting with it

> sign your mail with dkim, have matching reverse dns records
> use whitelisting features at big mailers
> get out addresses of your addressbase which cant be delivered several times
> bounce unknown domains at income level
> etc, this may avoid few deferreds

> a cheap easy solution may be if you have enough ips
> use some hostserver with virtual oses i.e vmware etc
> each with their own ips and postfixes
> and use smtp_fallback_relay feature to handle
> outgoing mail over/between the virt servers, but be aware of
> greylisting times, so mail should stay on one server
> to honor this times
> same at deliver rates at other servers
> or perhaps the last in line server is your garbage pull out
> 
> i guess the same can be done with one machine and
> i.e postfix instances etc

really thanks for the tips! IPs are not problem and we are already
thinking about this solution.

> how you are creating that newsletters ?
> mixing the recipient adresses may help ( dont send
> hundreds of mails at once to one servers , mix it to avoid deliver rates
> ), perhaps check mx records before send etc etc

we have our own app which can be modified to any of such rules. We
already using parts of what you suggested.

> analyse your current logs , to find out what solutions fits best to your
> needs
> 
> this was discussed several times here on the list
> read archive for solutions may fit to you

yes, it was. I did my homework before I wrote :) and browsed many of
mails. I wasn't able to find out how exactly do moving of deferred.
Main problem is imho that I'm not native speaker so I have trouble
with guessing right phrase. Anyway with your answers it will be much
easier. Thanks again.

Regards,

Kepi

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