On Tue, 12 Apr 2011 10:54:13 -0400
Kris Deugau <kdeu...@vianet.ca> articulated:

> Stan Hoeppner wrote:
> > Jerry put forth on 4/11/2011 4:39 PM:
> >> Stan Hoeppner<s...@hardwarefreak.com>  articulated:
> >>> Why bother with this complex greylisting setup?  Simply hammer
> >>> the big blocks with a CIDR entry and whitelist individual IPs in
> >>> the range from which you need legit mail.  If such IPs are used
> >>> to send both snowshoe spam and ham, that's a human shield tactic,
> >>> and deserves permanent blocking, FOREVER.  If anyone complains,
> >>> lay the full skinny on them as to why.  I.e. lay the blame at the
> >>> proper feet, and direct complaints at the guilty.
> >>>
> >>> Life is too short to waste _your_ valuable time playing
> >>> whack-a-mole with spammers, isn't it?  We don't live in a totally
> >>> "collateral damage free" world.  People must get used to this.
> >>
> >> Unless of course you get hit with a law suit.
> 
> > Have you heard of a case of an SMTP sender suing an SMTP receiver
> > for message rejection, and winning the case?  Something like this
> > would echo through the tech press, and I've heard nothing.
> 
> Consider instead the case of a paying ISP customer suing said ISP for 
> blocking dear Mother's email because Mother is getting her Internet 
> connection from a company with lax enforcement against spammers.
> 
> Some of us simply do not have the luxury of deliberately causing
> false positives in our spam blocking efforts.

When I made the lawsuit statement, I was referring to a real ISP and
not a home/hobbyist setup. I believe that might have confused some
individuals. In any case, 5 years ago I was involved in a class action
suit against a major ISP in NY. That suit was settled out of court, the
exact status of which was sealed. In effect, the ISP did not admit any
guilt and stated that they would never do it again. (You have got to
love the law). No money, other than between the lawyers I would assume,
ever changed hands and the IPS quickly amended it regulations and
significantly altered the way it was blocking mail. Basically, it had
to get a subscribers permission to block e-mail.

IMHO, too many ISPs abuse their power by acting like the Gestapo.
Unfortunately, it is rarely an easy feat to simply change ISPs. If more
lawsuits were filed against ISPs it might lead to some ISPs being
forced to clean up their act.

-- 
Jerry ✌
postfix-u...@seibercom.net
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