Hello,

<r...@gmx.co.uk> wrote: 

>Subject: Re: posfix rejected from google server
>
>On Fri, Mar 04, 2011 at 03:29:08PM +0100, kapetr wrote:
>> first I have to say: the problem with home/dynamic IP ranges,
>> business accounts, ... and therefore the need of using relay of
>> my ISP in my case I have well understand and I do it so.
>>
>> What I'm interesting for is still the:
>>
>> > http://cbl.abuseat.org/lookup.cgi?ip=85.71.234.108+&.submit=Lookup
>> > >> >
>> > says -as you wrote:
>> > IP Address 85.71.234.108 is listed in the CBL. It appears to be
>> > infected with a spam sending trojan or proxy.
>> > It was last detected at 2011-03-01 07:00 GMT (+/- 30 minutes),
>>
>> So the question is, how I get into such list and why am I
>> recognized as " infected with a spam sending trojan or proxy"
>> and not just "disabled while dynamic IP range".
>
>Did you read the rest of that page, and these links?
>http://cbl.abuseat.org/nat.html
>http://cbl.abuseat.org/advanced.html

Of course I had read that. 
But the problem is - all the text is based on the assumption, then
on my system/LAN/...
is spambot - and I believe this  is not my case - see below.

>
>> I have first time used Postfix (after install) at 2011-03-01
>> 06:00
>> >> GMT
>>
>> And at 2011-03-01 06:44 GMT I have try send test e-mail to my
>> <kenap.i...@gmail.com>, which was rejected back.
>>
>> So my conclusion is, that my only "crime" was this action:
>> attempt
>> >> of send mail to Goggle SMTP server from homeIP address. The
>> Google
>> >> server probably immediately have send report of that to
>> cbl.abuseat.org, which has it rated as I would be "infected with
>> a
>> >> spam sending trojan or proxy", which is not accurate - NOT
>> correct.
>> >
>I doubt your conclusion. IIUC CBL detects spam based on content and
>I doubt your conclusion. IIUC CBL detects spam based on content and
>ONLY when it hits a spamtrap address; that is, an address which has
>never been used for legitimate mail and was harvested by spammers.
>

It can not be so.

My "from:" address used by these tests of fresh Postfix installation
I have and use many years - so it fit not in yours definition of
"spamtrap adress".

And there was nothing/nobody sending email - how shows the time 
reported by cbl.abuseat.org - this was only this one accident which
exactly corresponds with the test mail send via the fresh installed
Postfix. After change Posfix config to "relayhost" - no new
accidents was reported.  That is IMHO good evidence, that there is
no spambot on my system.

(+ i have add iptables rule for outgoing SMTP - to check SYN packet
count. Nothing suspect.)

And the content of email? See, what googles server reports in error
message - there is only hint of disallowed connection from my IP and
recommendation  to use ISPs server. No spam.


>I further highly doubt any link between Gmail and CBL exists.

O course - it must exist - direct or indirect.
Or how do you thing, that are such list filled ?
Someone must report it. And there was communication only between my
computer and Googles server.  
(And I did not report :-)


That's why I thing:

>
>> Maybe cbl.abuseat.org simple things, that if someone try to send
>> emails from MTA on homeIP, then it must be spamer or infected
>> system
>> >> ?!

... after Googles server has asked about my IP address by
abuseat.org.



>Also it's not really on topic here. If you'll indulge a shameless
>self-promotion, this would be quite on topic on this list, which I
>co-manage:
>http://spammers.dontlike.us/
>We do have a CBL representative who subscribes and sometimes posts.
>- --
>Offlist mail to this address is discarded unless
>"/dev/rob0" or "not-spam" is in Subject: header

?? I don't understand, what do you mean. 
Sorry my English - I'm not able to describe all as I would like -
that's why I use only streamlined sentences. I work with Google
translator.

But to say, that I do "shameless self-promotion" ? This is too much,
isn't ?

--kapetr

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