my mistake i was cutting and paste from some some advise and copies the typo

spaces are bad in postfix

now to see if postgre wil actually learn this time  so far no

Begin forwarded message:

From: Wietse Venema <wie...@porcupine.org>
Date: January 30, 2011 12:41:56 PM AST
To: jason hirsh <hir...@att.net>
Cc: postfix-users@postfix.org
Subject: Re: Postfix and Postgrey  Not Really Communicating

jason hirsh:
smtpd_recipient_restrictions = permit

Right, all mail passes because you have "permit" first.

        Wietse

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