>> When I use telnet to connect to mx0.roessner-net.de 25, waiting for 
>> postscreen to allow me sending EHLO, I only get the following list of 
>> commands:
>> 
>> Trying 78.46.253.227...
>> Connected to mx0.roessner-net.de.
>> Escape character is '^]'.
>> 220-mx0.roessner-net.de ESMTP
>> 220 mx0.roessner-net.de ESMTP
>> EHLO client.unitymedia.org
>> 250-mx0.roessner-net.de
>> 250-SIZE 31457280
>> 250-ETRN
>> 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES
>> 250-8BITMIME
>> 250 DSN
>> 
>> Where is the STARTTLS? When I look at the logs, I see that servers use TLS 
>> to communicate with my server. So could someone tell me, how the trick 
>> works? To do TLS without seeing the STARTTLS command? And I do not have 465 
>> open. Only 25.
>> 
>> Thanks to anybody who might like to bring light into dark for me :-)
> 
> telnet is the wrong tool.
> openssl s_client -connect mx0.roessner-net.de:25 -startls smtp \
>        -CAfile /path/to/ca

But how does a client know that the server _offers_ starttls, if not connecting 
plain and looking for the STARTTLS keyword?

Christian

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