On Thu, 4 Nov 2010, /dev/rob0 wrote:

On Thu, Nov 04, 2010 at 06:54:05AM -0500, Larry Stone wrote:
On 11/4/10 5:46 AM, Stan Hoeppner at s...@hardwarefreak.com wrote:
Be glad it's still free and that you simply have to add some
software to your system to make it work again.

Care to provide some pointers to such software? Or do you just
assume we all have the adequate level of expertise and time to
do it ourselves.

That assumption, on the postfix-users mailing list, seems well-
founded to me. I suggest, if you lack the time and expertise, that
you reconsider your decision to host your own email. Running a mail
server is not a trivial task.

Expertise to implement a policy server? I agree. Write one from scratch? I disagree. I do agree running a mail server is not trivial but disagree that hard-core programming skills should be a prequisite.

Google is your friend. In recent months there has been discussion
here regarding possible implementations of DNSWL for Postfix, and
that discussion also mentioned alternatives (policy servers.)

However, I do think one of the problems with this list (which I have been following for a couple of years) is a tendency for the cognescenti to reply with less than helpful things like "it's documented" or "Google is your friend" (I did and nothing useful came up - perhaps bad search terms). And, since I've been using DNSWL for awhile, I definitely would have been interested in a discussion related to alternatives for using their lists and recall nothing in the last few months (there was a discussion in September of their file format but I recall nothing there about implementing a policy-server).

While there are people who come to lists like this having done no research on their own, there are also many of us who try to find their own solutions first so when we post, responses that translate to "find it yourself" (which is what responses like "it's documented" or "Google is your friend mean) are entirely non-helpful.

And consider the other big discussion of today where there is piece of documentation that some people find entirely clear while others see it as entirely confusing (put me in the confused camp). What's obvious to you isn't obvious to everyone.

-- Larry Stone
   lston...@stonejongleux.com

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